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[Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:41 pm

Children are more likely to hear Steven (H/A/M), while adults are more likley to see him. I'm also pretty sure that very few people have both seen him and heard him, and those who did most probably didn't realize.

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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:16 pm

I'm a Steven with a PH too!

Does Steven 'appear' in some sort of guise? Is he a performer of some sort? Does he wear a costume? Is he a voice actor? Radio presenter/announcer? Does he work on both adults and childrens programmes? Perhaps he hosts a kid's show on the radio but acts in M-rated film or television?

If he is an actor or similar, is he seen in character by one age group but in reality in the other? Is he reclusive in some way? Does he live somewhere unusual?

Is he healthy and physically normal?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:28 am

I'm a Steven with a PH too! What a coincidence, I'm Lena with a PhD! (Yes I've been waiting for this opportunity for the last 2.5 years)

Does Steven 'appear' in some sort of guise? Yope Is he a performer of some sort? Noish Does he wear a costume? No Is he a voice actor? Not professionally, but voice acting is relevant Radio presenter/announcer? No Does he work on both adults and childrens programmes? n/a Perhaps he hosts a kid's show on the radio but acts in M-rated film or television? Good idea but no

If he is an actor or similar, is he seen in character by one age group but in reality in the other? This is OTRT Is he reclusive in some way? No Does he live somewhere unusual? No

Is he healthy and physically normal? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:52 am

Is he seen on TV? Heard on radio? computers relevant? The internet? Mass media?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby BitterLemonCurry » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:32 pm

Does his voice end up on some record by coincidence? And the same happened to his picture by another coincidence?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:55 pm

GalFisk
Is he seen on TV? No, but OTRT Heard on radio? No, but OTRT computers relevant? The internet? Mass media? No to rest

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Does his voice end up on some record by coincidence? And the same happened to his picture by another coincidence? No to both
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:07 am

Is he seen on a screen? Is he heard from a recording? Are children who hear him, likely to see him when they grow up? Do those who hear him, hear his voice? Hear him speak? Sing? Play an instrument? Do those who see him, see his face? Do those who see him, see him in person? See a still image? A moving image?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:09 am

Is he seen on a screen? Yes Is he heard from a recording? Yes Are children who hear him, likely to see him when they grow up? No Do those who hear him, hear his voice? Yes Hear him speak? Yes Sing? No Play an instrument? No Do those who see him, see his face? Yes Do those who see him, see him in person? No See a still image? No A moving image? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am

The few people that both have seen and heard him: both at the same time? at the same occasion? or heard as a child and seen as an adult and not realized that it's both the same person?
Is he a voice actor of a famous character? an animation character?
Does he apart from that also appear as an actor? singer? dancer? musician? show host? artist? athlete?
If not TV, then: cinema? theatre? other stage performance?
Does he appear in commercials? on billboards?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:21 am

When he is seen, is any sound relevantly heard? When he is heard, is any image or object relevantly seen?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:17 pm

Sundowner
The few people that both have seen and heard him: both at the same time? No at the same occasion? No or heard as a child and seen as an adult and not realized that it's both the same person? Yes
Is he a voice actor of a famous character? an animation character? No to both
Does he apart from that also appear as an actor? singer? dancer? musician? show host? artist? athlete? No to all
If not TV, then: cinema? theatre? other stage performance? No to all
Does he appear in commercials? on billboards? No to both

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When he is seen, is any sound relevantly heard? No When he is heard, is any image or object relevantly seen? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby BalinTheDwarf » Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:41 pm

Is he seen online? On YouTube? Is he a streamer?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:30 pm

When he's heard, is a movie seen? A character? a cartoon character? When he's seen, is there any sound at all? Is there music? WAG: was he once a silent movie star? Who then became a voice actor for kids' shows?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:41 pm

Balin
Is he seen online? On YouTube? Is he a streamer? No to all

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When he's heard, is a movie seen? No A character? Yes, among other things a cartoon character? No When he's seen, is there any sound at all? Is there music? IIRC, there is music, but largely irrel WAG: was he once a silent movie star? Who then became a voice actor for kids' shows? Nice WAG but no
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:28 am

Is he heard from a recording on: vinyl? Tape? Optical disc? Chip? Is he seen on an electronic screen? Projector screen? Shadow screen? Are children and adults likely to experience him at the same time? If not, in the same year? Decade? Is he ever relevantly seen live? Heard live? Seen in person? Heard in person?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:50 pm

Is he heard from a recording on: vinyl? Tape? Optical disc? Chip? Chip, I think Is he seen on an electronic screen? Projector screen? This Shadow screen? Are children and adults likely to experience him at the same time? If not, in the same year? Decade? All are possible Is he ever relevantly seen live? Heard live? Seen in person? Heard in person? No / not relevantly to all
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby Biograd1 » Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:00 am

Is the context in which his voice appears properly considered a creative work? Is it a form of entertainment? advertising-related? purely informational?
Same questions for the context in which his face appears?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:55 pm

Is the context in which his voice appears properly considered a creative work? Creativity is relevant, but most people probably wouldn't call it a "creative work" Is it a form of entertainment? Yes advertising-related? No purely informational? Not purely, but it is informational
Same questions for the context in which his face appears? Same answers
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:30 am

Is the chip in a toy? Is the projector projecting slides? Physical film? Digital data? Overhead transparents? Is the content educational? Scientific?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:00 pm

Is the chip in a toy? No Is the projector projecting slides? Physical film? Digital data? This, a digital movie Overhead transparents? Is the content educational? Yes Scientific? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby Sundowner64 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:50 pm

Is the movie shown in educational context? in schools? museums? other places of education? in TV? in public places?
Is the target audience of this movie: toddlers? school children? teenagers? young adults? students? adults in general? elder people?
Is it an animated movie? a live action movie? a documentary? do any people or characters appear in the movie?
Is Steven the narrator in the movie?
Is the movie still being shown?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:58 am

Is the movie shown in educational context? Yes in schools? museums? Yes, one museum other places of education? in TV? in public places?
Is the target audience of this movie: toddlers? school children? teenagers? young adults? students? adults in general? This elder people?
Is it an animated movie? a live action movie? a documentary? This do any people or characters appear in the movie? Yes
Is Steven the narrator in the movie? No, and I think you're getting things mixed up. Steven can be seen in the movie and heard in a different context
Is the movie still being shown? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:17 am

Are children unlikely to see him because they're unlikely to visit the museum? See this movie in the museum? See this type of movie? Is it scary? does it require 3D glasses? Is it expensive to go see it?
Do children hear him at home? In preschool? School? Outdoors? When playing? When they hear him speak, is he speaking to them? Is he speaking English?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:06 am

Are children unlikely to see him because they're unlikely to visit the museum? This See this movie in the museum? See this type of movie? Is it scary? does it require 3D glasses? Is it expensive to go see it? None of these
Do children hear him at home? In preschool? School? Outdoors? When playing? No to all When they hear him speak, is he speaking to them? Yes Is he speaking English? This puzzle is set in Germany and he is speaking German
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:21 am

Ar they likely to hear him on the school bus? When they hear him, are they likely to be: alone? With siblings? With friends? With classmates? With an adult? More than one adult? At the doctor? Is his voice used in a hearing test? When learning to speak? In speech therapy?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby naomi » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:17 pm

Is the setting of the movie relevant? If so, is it futuristic? Modern? Medieval? Ancient?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:32 am

Does Steven appear in the movie? is the movie a documentary about him? or about something that is he is an example for? does he demonstrate something in the movie? is he the only one who appears in the movie?
Is the museum about "adult topics" (like sex & crime)? Is the movie?
Was the movie also shown outside the museum?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:44 am

GalFisk
Ar they likely to hear him on the school bus? No When they hear him, are they likely to be: alone? With siblings? With friends? With classmates? With an adult? More than one adult? All of these are possible At the doctor? Is his voice used in a hearing test? When learning to speak? In speech therapy? No to these, but good ideas

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Welcome to the forum, naomi!

Is the setting of the movie relevant? No If so, is it futuristic? Modern? Medieval? Ancient?

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Does Steven appear in the movie? Yes is the movie a documentary about him? No or about something that is he is an example for? Yes does he demonstrate something in the movie? Yes is he the only one who appears in the movie? No
Is the museum about "adult topics" (like sex & crime)? Is the movie? No to both
Was the movie also shown outside the museum? No

Actually, there's no need to find out any more details about the movie. All that you need to know is that Steven is in it and that it is shown at a museum that is mainly visited by adults.
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:46 am

Were the recordings the children are likely to hear made before the movie? After? At the same time? If before or after, relevant how long? Do the children own the devices with the chips with the recording os his voice? If not, are they owned by: parents? Preschools? Schools? Are children of all ages likely to hear this recording? If not: Newborn? Toddlers? Preschoolers? Preteen school kids? Teens?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:24 am

Were the recordings the children are likely to hear made before the movie? This, but irrel After? At the same time? If before or after, relevant how long? Not relevant Do the children own the devices with the chips with the recording os his voice? No, and maybe "chip" is wrong or at least misleading - my apologies If not, are they owned by: parents? Preschools? Schools? No to all Are children of all ages likely to hear this recording? If not: Newborn? Toddlers? Preschoolers? Preteen school kids? Teens? Mostly preschoolers and elementary school-aged kids
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:25 am

Are the sounds store in the devices where they're heard? On an internet server or cloud? Do the kids cause the sounds to be produced? For instance, by pressing buttons? Are toys relevant? Is the voice the kids hear educational? Safety-related? Amusing? Comforting? Do children hear him in a specific place? During a specific activity? Are most children likely to hear him? Many? Some? Only a few? Children with special needs relevant?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:55 pm

Are the sounds store in the devices where they're heard? Yes, but small FA: There is only one relevant device On an internet server or cloud? No, although this could work as well Do the kids cause the sounds to be produced? Yes For instance, by pressing buttons? Yes Are toys relevant? No Is the voice the kids hear educational? Yes Safety-related? Amusing? Comforting? No/not relevantly to these Do children hear him in a specific place? Yes During a specific activity? Yes Are most children likely to hear him? Many? Some? Only a few? This Children with special needs relevant? Not specifically
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:19 pm

Is the button also in a museum? Are only kids likely to presse the button? To hear the resulting voice?
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:47 pm

Is the button also in a museum? Yes! Are only kids likely to presse the button? No, but the vast majority of people who press the button are children To hear the resulting voice? No, if an adult pressed the button, they would hear the voice as well


********SPOILER********
Steven is "on display" at two completely unrelated museums: In 2012 or so, he provided a voiceover for an exhibition at a children's museum where he worked part-time at the time. Years later, as a PhD student, he is filmed at work for a movie that would eventually be shown at the university museum. The museums are in different cities, 300 km (200 miles) apart, and have different target groups, so it's safe to assume that very few people have both heard the recording and seen the footage.

This is a true story - Steven is yours truly in disguise. Why Steven? Because being on display at two museums essentially makes me a work of art :D , which reminded me of the song "To me you are a work of art" by the infamous Steven Patrick Morrissey.

Thanks for playing, and congrats on the solve, GalFisk!
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:53 pm

Cool!
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Re: [Doriana] Phteven

Postby JenBurdoo1 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:53 pm

I'll remember this one. You're very lucky to work in museums; I remember my time doing it fondly.
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