[Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

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[Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:34 am

Rob (H/youngA/M) decided to become a doctor because Aaron (H/youngA/M) knew how to play the guitar.

Based on a piece of "dad lore" ("Rob" is my father), so this might or might not be a true story :D
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Postby Sundowner64 » Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:30 am

Is Aaron a relative of Rob? Are they friends? Did they know each other?
Did Aaron pursue a musical career? relevant?
Doctor = medical doctor? one specific field of medicine relevant?
Did Rob eventually become a doctor?
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Postby BalinTheDwarf » Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:51 pm

Is anything specific about guitar playing relevant? Chords? Picking? Strumming? Reading music? Reading tablature?
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Postby doriana_ » Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:05 pm

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Is Aaron a relative of Rob? No Are they friends? No Did they know each other? No, but they have met or at least know of each other
Did Aaron pursue a musical career? relevant? Irrel, assume no
Doctor = medical doctor? Yes one specific field of medicine relevant? No
Did Rob eventually become a doctor? Yes

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Is anything specific about guitar playing relevant? Not in the way your follow-up questions suggest Chords? Picking? Strumming? Reading music? Reading tablature? No to these
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:53 pm

Did Rob relevantly hear Aaron play? See Aaron play? Know womeone who had seen Aaron play? Or heard Aaron play? Does he become a doctor because he's interested in illnesses? Wants to help people? Did Rob know how to play the guitar? Relevant? Any other musical instruments relevant? Any particular piece of music?
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Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:36 am

Did Rob relevantly hear Aaron play? See Aaron play? Know womeone who had seen Aaron play? Or heard Aaron play? No to all Does he become a doctor because he's interested in illnesses? Wants to help people? Assume both played a role Did Rob know how to play the guitar? No Relevant? Yes Any other musical instruments relevant? Any particular piece of music? No to these
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Postby Sundowner64 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:48 am

Was Aaron somehow famous? as a guitar player? otherwise?
Was he a professional musician? Did he play in an orchestra? band? solo?
Was Aaron still alive when Rob decided to become a doctor?
Did Aaron have a relevant medical condition or illness? Did Rob?
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:49 am

Did Rob want to learn how to play the guitar? did Rom think knowing how to play the guitar gave Aaron something that Rob wanted? Did Rob and Aaron have a: friendship? Rivalry? Any other relevant relationship? Did Aaron know he made Rob decide to become a doctor? If so, did he approve? If not, would he approve if he did?
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Postby BitterLemonCurry » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:27 pm

Is impressing people relevant?
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Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:54 pm

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Was Aaron somehow famous? as a guitar player? otherwise? No to all
Was he a professional musician? No Did he play in an orchestra? band? solo? Irrel
Was Aaron still alive when Rob decided to become a doctor? Yes
Did Aaron have a relevant medical condition or illness? Did Rob? No to both

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Did Rob want to learn how to play the guitar? No did Rom think knowing how to play the guitar gave Aaron something that Rob wanted? Yes Did Rob and Aaron have a: friendship? No Rivalry? Noish Any other relevant relationship? Yesish, although keep in mind that they did not really know each other Did Aaron know he made Rob decide to become a doctor? No If so, did he approve? n/a If not, would he approve if he did? Irrel

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Is impressing people relevant? No
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Postby Admin » Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:47 pm

Does the motivation to study medicine involve annoyance, envy, greed, avoidance of something, or some other emotion caused by hearing the other guy practise the guitar?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:03 am

Does Rob know Aaron? Know who he is? Like him? Love him? Dislike him? Hate him? Look up to him? Look down on him? Want something he has? Want to take away something he has? Want to meet him? Want to get to know him? Want to meet someone he knows? Get to know someone he knows? Want to impress him?
Can you answer the same questions with the roles reversed?
Does Aaron relevantly study anything? is Aaron older than Rob? The same age? Relevant? Is the level of talent and skill at guitar which Aaron has relevant?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:13 am

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Does the motivation to study medicine involve annoyance, envy, greed, avoidance of something, or some other emotion caused by hearing the other guy practise the guitar? Annoyance and envy are somewhat relevant, but they are not caused by hearing Aaron play the guitar. In fact, you can assume that Rob has never heard or seen Aaron play.

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Does Rob know Aaron? No Know who he is? Yes Like him? No Love him? No Dislike him? Yes, mildly Hate him? No Look up to him? No Look down on him? No Want something he has? Yes, small ish Want to take away something he has? Want to meet him? Want to get to know him? Want to meet someone he knows? Get to know someone he knows? Want to impress him? No to rest
Can you answer the same questions with the roles reversed? Aaron knows who Rob is and feels neutral towards him. No/irrel to rest
Does Aaron relevantly study anything? He is relevantly not studying is Aaron older than Rob? The same age? This Relevant? Yes Is the level of talent and skill at guitar which Aaron has relevant? No
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Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:32 am

Is Aaron's profession relevant? his occupation?
Do Aaron and Rob live in the same street or neighborhood?
Relevant how Rob came to know that Aaron is playing the guitar? Did he see him with a guitar? Did he see him buy a guitar? Did he sell his guitar to Aaron?
Does Rob also play the guitar?
Does Rob know something else of relevance about Aaron?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:20 am

Romance relevant? Does Aaron have a girlfriend? Does Rob not?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:11 pm

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Is Aaron's profession relevant? No/FA his occupation? Yes
Do Aaron and Rob live in the same street or neighborhood? Not necessarily, but they live in the same city
Relevant how Rob came to know that Aaron is playing the guitar? Yes Did he see him with a guitar? Did he see him buy a guitar? Did he sell his guitar to Aaron? No to all
Does Rob also play the guitar? He relevantly does not
Does Rob know something else of relevance about Aaron? Yes

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Romance relevant? No Does Aaron have a girlfriend? Does Rob not? Irrel
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Postby BalinTheDwarf » Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:42 pm

Is Aaron a student? Is Rob?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:43 pm

Is Aaron a student? Is Rob? No to both
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:24 am

Does Aaron earn money from playing the guitar? Relevant? Could Rob achieve his goal by becoming something other than a docor? Relevant what he does after becoming a doctor? During becoming a doctor?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:47 pm

Does Aaron earn money from playing the guitar? Yope, explore Relevant? Yes Could Rob achieve his goal by becoming something other than a docor? FA, Rob does not have a relevant goal Relevant what he does after becoming a doctor? During becoming a doctor? No to both
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:28 am

Does Aaron earn money for charity by playing the guitar? Earn something of value which is not money? Before Rob decided to become a doctor, had he no idea what he wanted to become? A vague idea? Multiple choices? Two choices? Did he want to be like Aaron in some way? Different from Aaron?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:01 pm

Does Aaron earn money for charity by playing the guitar? Earn something of value which is not money? No to both, OTWT. He earns money, but not mainly by playing the guitar Before Rob decided to become a doctor, had he no idea what he wanted to become? A vague idea? This Multiple choices? and this Two choices? Did he want to be like Aaron in some way? Different from Aaron? No to both
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:33 pm

Does Aaron earn money doing something while playing guitar? Such as singing? Dancing? Doing stunts? Doing something else dangerous? If he did not earn money doing this thing, would Rob still have gotten the idea to become a doctor?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:37 pm

Does Aaron have a regular job or income? if so: is it related to music?
Does Rob hear/see/read some relevant information about Aaron? if so: different occasions? different pieces of information?
Any public appearance of Aaron relevant? a concert? a song recording?
Did Rob see a billboard poster advertising for Aaron's performance?
Did Aaron mention Rob in one of his songs? or a stereotype that applies to Rob?
Are Rob and Aaron more or less of the same age?
Did Rob and Aaron ever meet each other? if so: at school or university? somewhere outdoors? during a leisure activity? sports? in professional/work context?
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Postby doriana_ » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:02 am

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Does Aaron earn money doing something while playing guitar? No Such as singing? Dancing? Doing stunts? Doing something else dangerous? No to all If he did not earn money doing this thing, would Rob still have gotten the idea to become a doctor? No

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Does Aaron have a regular job or income? Yes (maybe -ish, DOYD of "job") if so: is it related to music? Music is a small part of his job
Does Rob hear/see/read some relevant information about Aaron? Yes, hear if so: different occasions? different pieces of information? One piece of information on one occasion
Any public appearance of Aaron relevant? a concert? a song recording? No
Did Rob see a billboard poster advertising for Aaron's performance? No
Did Aaron mention Rob in one of his songs? or a stereotype that applies to Rob? No to both
Are Rob and Aaron more or less of the same age? Yes
Did Rob and Aaron ever meet each other? They might have met once if so: at school or university? somewhere outdoors? during a leisure activity? sports? in professional/work context? This
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:33 am

Did Aaron get the jobish because he could play guitar? Relevant how much money he hearns? How much work he does to earn it? Is actually becoming a doctor Robs goal? Studying to become a doctor? Earning money? Relevant what Aaron is studying? If anything?
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Postby doriana_ » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:05 am

Did Aaron get the jobish because he could play guitar? Yes Relevant how much money he hearns? No How much work he does to earn it? No Is actually becoming a doctor Robs goal? Studying to become a doctor? Earning money? Could you clarify what you mean by "goal"? Relevant what Aaron is studying? If anything? It is relevant that he is not studying
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:36 am

Does Rob have a relevant goal? For instance, does he want to study medicine in order to become a doctor? Or does he want to become a doctor in order to help people? Does he want to get one-over on Aaron? Or is his goal to determine what to study? Is it only the choice itself that Aaron helped with? Such as Rob going "man, I don't know what to study, should I study biology or medicine or chemistry?" and then Aaron gets on the radio singing "Dr. Jones" or something and Rob goes "ah, doctor it is then"? If not this, is randomness involved in Rob's choice? Such as a coin toss? Or other external factor which has nothing to do with doctors (or even studying), but which Rob used to make the choice for him?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:41 am

Is Aaron's job rather some sort of public office? was he elected into this position? is he doing charity or pro-bono work? besides some other (unrelated) job maybe? does he give guitar lessons?
Did Rob consider Aaron's guitar skills helpful for Aaron's career? unhelpful? useless?
Was Rob's consideration along the line: as he cannot play the guitar as well as Aaron, he need to do something else to progress in career?
When Aaron and Rob met in professional context, was it professional context for both? for Aaron only? for Rob only? did they have some relevant interaction? if so: was it positive for Rob? negative? neutral?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:47 am

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Does Rob have a relevant goal? He does at some point, but the goal has nothing to do with him studying medicine or becoming a doctor For instance, does he want to study medicine in order to become a doctor? Or does he want to become a doctor in order to help people? Does he want to get one-over on Aaron? Or is his goal to determine what to study? No to all of these Is it only the choice itself that Aaron helped with? Yes Such as Rob going "man, I don't know what to study, should I study biology or medicine or chemistry?" and then Aaron gets on the radio singing "Dr. Jones" or something and Rob goes "ah, doctor it is then"? But not like this. Keep in mind that Rob never saw or heard Aaron play the guitar If not this, is randomness involved in Rob's choice? Such as a coin toss? No to these Or other external factor which has nothing to do with doctors (or even studying), Yes but which Rob used to make the choice for him? But noish

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Is Aaron's job rather some sort of public office? was he elected into this position? is he doing charity or pro-bono work? besides some other (unrelated) job maybe? does he give guitar lessons? No to all
Did Rob consider Aaron's guitar skills helpful for Aaron's career? What Aaron does wouldn't be considered a career, but Rob does consider Aaron's guitar skills helpful for the job-ish unhelpful? useless?
Was Rob's consideration along the line: as he cannot play the guitar as well as Aaron, he need to do something else to progress in career? No, small ish
When Aaron and Rob met in professional context, was it professional context for both? Yes for Aaron only? for Rob only? did they have some relevant interaction? Maybe. I'm not sure if they ever directly interacted, but that's not super relevant either if so: was it positive for Rob? negative? neutral? If an interaction took place, it was neutral, but the outcome of them meeting was negative for Rob
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:49 am

Are any other people relevant? Are any other skills of Aaron's relevant? Any skills of Rob's? Or hobbies? Or interests?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:19 am

Are any other people relevant? Yes Are any other skills of Aaron's relevant? Any skills of Rob's? Only insofar as they have a pretty comparable set of skills apart from the guitar thing Or hobbies? Or interests? No to these
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:31 am

Other people: one person? More? One group? More? HAM? Someone related to Rom? To Aaron? Someone Aaron knows? Rob knows? Did Rob and Aaron ever compete? If so, for the same job?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:56 pm

Other people: one person? More? One group? This More? HAM? H/A/M or H/A/mixed Someone related to Rom? To Aaron? No to these Someone Aaron knows? DOYD of "know" Rob knows? DOYD of "know" Did Rob and Aaron ever compete? Yes! If so, for the same job? Yes, with the caveat that it's a job-ish
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:21 pm

Jobish: gig? Volunteer position? Something done for a company? A group of people? A person? Did the group of people give Aaron the job-ish?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:53 pm

Jobish: gig? Volunteer position? This is closest Something done for a company? I would call it an organisation rather than a company A group of people? Only insofar as they make up the organisation A person? No Did the group of people give Aaron the job-ish Yes!

Don't dwell on the organisation or what exactly Aaron does there. It's only relevant that he got the job-ish that he and Rob were competing for.
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:55 pm

Does Rob decide to become a doctor because he doesn't get the job-ish? Because now he has time to study a lot? Because he wants to right some wrong, real or perceived?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:58 pm

Does Rob decide to become a doctor because he doesn't get the job-ish? This, explore Because now he has time to study a lot? Because he wants to right some wrong, real or perceived? No to these
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:40 pm

Relevant what he'd be doing if he got the job-ish? Would getting it mean he wouldn't have decided to become a doctor? Or at least lowered the probability? Is the organization cultural? Charitable? Religious?
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Postby doriana_ » Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:00 pm

Relevant what he'd be doing if he got the job-ish? No Would getting it mean he wouldn't have decided to become a doctor? Yes Or at least lowered the probability? I would put it the other way round: The probability was low first and only increased after he didn't get the job Is the organization cultural? Charitable? Religious? This, but irrel
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:39 pm

Were he and Aaron the only two candidates? If not, was Rob next in line if Aaron declined? Or if Aaron didn't apply in the first place? Relevant what the job-ish is? Why Aaron got it due to being able to play the guitar? Did Rob ever think he'd get the job-ish? Relevant what he would've studied had he gotten it?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:43 pm

Were he and Aaron the only two candidates? Assume yes If not, was Rob next in line if Aaron declined? n/a Or if Aaron didn't apply in the first place? Yes, then Rob would have gotten it Relevant what the job-ish is? No Why Aaron got it due to being able to play the guitar? No Did Rob ever think he'd get the job-ish? Yes Relevant what he would've studied had he gotten it? No, just that it was something other than medicine
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:47 pm

Relevant in which way he was told he didn't get the job-ish? When? By whom? At what time? Had he made any relevant plans for what he would do when he got the job? Is studying to become a doctor his way of making the best out of a bad situation?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:49 pm

Relevant in which way he was told he didn't get the job-ish? When? By whom? At what time? No to all Had he made any relevant plans for what he would do when he got the job? No Is studying to become a doctor his way of making the best out of a bad situation? No
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:55 pm

Is it relevant what the group does, apart from providing the job-ish and rejecting Rob? Is the moment of actual rejection the moment Rob decides to become a doctor? If not, does it happen seconds later? Minutes? Hours? Days? Months? Years?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:56 pm

Is it relevant what the group does, apart from providing the job-ish and rejecting Rob? No Is the moment of actual rejection the moment Rob decides to become a doctor? No If not, does it happen seconds later? Minutes? Hours? Days? Months? This, good question Years?
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:58 pm

Is it relevant for how long the job-ish lasts? If it ends, relevant what Aaron does afterwards? Does the job-ish bring Aaron any recognition? Relevant?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:01 pm

Is it relevant for how long the job-ish lasts? Somewhat. It lasts for 16 months If it ends, relevant what Aaron does afterwards? No. From the moment Rob receives the rejection, Aaron is no longer relevant Does the job-ish bring Aaron any recognition? No Relevant? No
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:04 pm

Is it relevant that Aaron got the job-ish because he could play guitar? Or would some other advantage that gave it to him work for the puzzle? If so, would any other advantage work? Even something unfair like nepotism? Did Rob know why Aaron got eh job-ish instead of him? Relevant? When the job-ish ends, has Arron already started studying to become a doctor?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:09 pm

Is it relevant that Aaron got the job-ish because he could play guitar? No Or would some other advantage that gave it to him work for the puzzle? If so, would any other advantage work? Even something unfair like nepotism? Yes to all Did Rob know why Aaron got eh job-ish instead of him? Relevant? Yes but irrel When the job-ish ends, has Arron already started studying to become a doctor? No
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:56 am

Is it relevant that the job-ish ends before Aaron starts studying? When it ends, has Aaron been accepted into the studies? Relevant? If Aaron hadn't applied for the job-ish in the first place, would he also not have studied to become a doctor? If he had applied to a different job and been rejected, would he have studied to become a doctor?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:57 am

Is it relevant that the job-ish ends before Aaron starts studying? Only for context When it ends, has Aaron been accepted into the studies? Relevant? Not really relevant, assume yes If Aaron hadn't applied for the job-ish in the first place, would he also not have studied to become a doctor? Hard to answer If he had applied to a different job and been rejected, would he have studied to become a doctor? All else being the same, yes
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:06 am

Is it relevant that Aaron specifically got the job-ish? Or would it work if someone else got it instead of Rob? If some non-guitar player got it instead of Rob? Or if the position was cancelled and no-one got it? Relevant what the rejection makes Rob feel?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:21 am

Is it relevant that Aaron specifically got the job-ish? No Or would it work if someone else got it instead of Rob? Yes If some non-guitar player got it instead of Rob? Yes Or if the position was cancelled and no-one got it? Yes Relevant what the rejection makes Rob feel? No

There's no need to find out more about the job-ish or the rejection. Instead, there's a missing piece that hasn't been explored at all. Keep in mind that Rob doesn't decide to become a doctor until months after the rejection.
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby Sundowner64 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:39 am

Was Rob rejected before Aaron got the job? before Aaron even applied? Or did Aaron get the job and then all other candidates including Rob were rejected?
Did Rob learn about his rejection immediately? only later? much later?
Did he find out who got the job instead of him immediately after being rejected? only later? much later?
Did he find out about the role of Aaron's guitar play immediately after learning that Aaron got the job? only later? much later?
Does Rob plan to apply again for this job once Aaron's term is over? then with a Bachelor in Medicine in backhand?
Is the job something like an internship or volunteering year? Is the actual content of the job less relevant than the place where it takes place?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:12 pm

Was Rob rejected before Aaron got the job? No before Aaron even applied? No Or did Aaron get the job and then all other candidates including Rob were rejected? Assume this (but Rob and Aaron were the only two candidates)
Did Rob learn about his rejection immediately? This only later? much later?
Did he find out who got the job instead of him immediately after being rejected? This only later? much later?
Did he find out about the role of Aaron's guitar play immediately after learning that Aaron got the job? This only later? much later?
Does Rob plan to apply again for this job once Aaron's term is over? No then with a Bachelor in Medicine in backhand? n/a
Is the job something like an internship or volunteering year? Volunteering is closest, it is a civilian service position Is the actual content of the job less relevant than the place where it takes place? Neither is relevant to the puzzle solution
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:15 pm

Is the rejection the direct cause of him studying medicine? Or are there additional steps? Or factors? Or people?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:17 pm

Is the rejection the direct cause of him studying medicine? No (see my answer above that there is a missing piece) Or are there additional steps? Yes, one additional step Or factors? Or people? No to these
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:19 pm

Does the step involve: Aaron? The orgnization? The school? Rob? Something about Rob? Such as his interests? Friendships? Hobbies? Routines? Home life? Love life? Where he lives?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:40 pm

Does the step involve: Aaron? The orgnization? The school? No to all Rob? Yes Something about Rob? Such as his interests? Friendships? Hobbies? Routines? Home life? Love life? Where he lives? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:11 pm

Does the step involve money? A job? Not having a job? An object? A relevant place? An ad? Other promotion?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:19 pm

Does the step involve money? See next answer A job? This Not having a job? No An object? No A relevant place? Yes, in the sense of a workplace An ad? Other promotion? No to these
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby Sundowner64 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:25 pm

Did Rob have different plans for his future before he decided to become a doctor? vague plans only? no plans at all?
Did in the meanwhile something happen that changed his mind? that confirmed his plans?
Did Rob want to do the civilian service to find out more about his interests? to improve the chances of getting admitted for the education he wanted? to bridge the time until the start of his education? to get out of his home?
If Rob had gotten the civilian service job, would he still have become a doctor afterwards?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:40 pm

Did Rob have different plans for his future before he decided to become a doctor? Yes vague plans only? Yes no plans at all?
Did in the meanwhile something happen that changed his mind? This that confirmed his plans?
Did Rob want to do the civilian service to find out more about his interests? to improve the chances of getting admitted for the education he wanted? to bridge the time until the start of his education? to get out of his home? No to all
If Rob had gotten the civilian service job, would he still have become a doctor afterwards? No
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:57 pm

Does he get another job? Or job-ish? If so, is it releated to medicine? To medical studies? To the school where he ends up studying?
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby doriana_ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:06 pm

Does he get another job? Or job-ish? This If so, is it releated to medicine? And this To medical studies? To the school where he ends up studying?

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When my dad ("Rob") graduated high school, military/civilian service was mandatory for young men in Germany. He had always been an active member of his church and had vague plans to become a social worker, so he applied for a civilian service position as a youth group leader with his church. However, he was rejected in favor of another candidate who knew how to play the guitar. He ended up doing his civilian service at a hospital instead, which sparked his interest in medicine and eventually led to him going to med school and becoming a doctor.
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Re: [Doriana] Is there a doctor on this forum?

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:11 pm

That's great. I love it when tiny things cause big positive changes in life.
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