[JenBurdoo] Never Found the Body

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[JenBurdoo] Never Found the Body

Postby JenBurdoo1 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:28 pm

Kyle murders Vic. Then he burns Vic's body and clothes to ash, crushes the bones to powder, dissolves whatever didn't burn in sulfuric acid, and scatters everything to the wind. Yet a detective finds traces of Vic anyway. What did Kyle miss?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Found the Body

Postby Sarisberie2 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:25 pm

Kyle and Vic = HAM etc? Or does Vic = Victoria, and Kyle = Kylie? Relevant WHY or WHERE Kyle murders Vic? Did Vic have prosthetics, implants or any other non-body items? Would this work if the person Vic murdered the person Kyle?
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Postby JenBurdoo1 » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:24 am

Kyle and Vic = HAM etc? Yes. Or does Vic = Victoria, and Kyle = Kylie? Would work. Relevant WHY No. or WHERE Yes, in a general sense. Kyle murders Vic? Did Vic have prosthetics, implants or any other non-body items? Yes. Would this work if the person Vic murdered the person Kyle? Depends on Kyle. Assume No or Irr.
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Postby trebor2 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:58 am

Relevant how Kyle and Vic knew each other? *Did* they know each other? Was Kyle a hitman?

Relevant the method of murder? If so, gunshot? Strangulation? Blunt force trauma? Beating to death with bare hands? Poisoning? Vehicular? Bomb? Setting on fire?

Did Kyle miss something that was part of Vic's body? A unnatural part of Vic's body? Dental work relevant? Rings? Body art? Other jewelry? Did Kyle miss something: in the planning of the murder? Before the murder happened? During the act of murder itself? In the disposal? Did he miss something in crushing the bones? Burning the body? Burning the clothes? Dissolving things that didn't burn? Scattering everything to the wind? Is any one of the above steps more relevant than the others? Did Kyle miss something unrelated to any of these steps? (Like he forgot to mail something that would've established an alibi for him, or he forgot to wash his hands/clothing after getting them dirty, etc.?)

Did Kyle miss the fact that it's important not to commit murder in a detective agency, right in front of a detective?

Was the murder committed indoors? Outdoors? Relevant whether it happened in a city? What country it happened in? Is time of day relevant? Time of year? Is the profession of Kyle relevant? The profession of Vic? Are there any relevant people other than Kyle, Vic, and the detective? Are there any other relevant animals?

Is the motive for the murder relevant?

Traces of Vic: did they find the traces of Vic on Kyle? Are they fingerprints? Defensive wounds? Other wounds incurred in the murder?
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Postby JenBurdoo1 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:27 pm

Relevant how Kyle and Vic knew each other? No. *Did* they know each other? Assume yes. Was Kyle a hitman? No.

Relevant the method of murder? Yes. If so, gunshot? This. Strangulation? Blunt force trauma? Beating to death with bare hands? Poisoning? Vehicular? Bomb? Setting on fire?

Did Kyle miss something that was part of Vic's body? A unnatural part of Vic's body? This. Dental work relevant? Rings? Body art? Other jewelry? None of these. Did Kyle miss something: in the planning of the murder? Before the murder happened? During the act of murder itself? This. In the disposal? And this. Did he miss something in crushing the bones? Burning the body? Burning the clothes? Dissolving things that didn't burn? This. Scattering everything to the wind? Is any one of the above steps more relevant than the others? Could be. Did Kyle miss something unrelated to any of these steps? Yes.. (Like he forgot to mail something that would've established an alibi for him, or he forgot to wash his hands/clothing after getting them dirty, etc.?) Not something that would be regarded as a clue, no.

Did Kyle miss the fact that it's important not to commit murder in a detective agency, right in front of a detective? No.

Was the murder committed indoors? Outdoors? This. Relevant whether it happened in a city? Mildly, and it didn't. What country it happened in? No. Is time of day relevant? Possibly. Time of year? Possibly. Is the profession of Kyle relevant? The profession of Vic? Are there any relevant people other than Kyle, Vic, and the detective? Are there any other relevant animals? No to the rest.

Is the motive for the murder relevant? No.

Traces of Vic: did they find the traces of Vic on Kyle? No. Are they fingerprints? Defensive wounds? Other wounds incurred in the murder?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:00 am

Were bullets found at the murder site? Bullets that passed through Vic's body? specific parts of his body? brain? lung? heart? bowels? eye?
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Postby JenBurdoo1 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:33 pm

Were bullets found at the murder site? No. Bullets that passed through Vic's body? specific parts of his body? brain? This. lung? heart? bowels? eye?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:06 am

Was Vic shot in the head? but the bullet stuck in the head? one bullet? more?
Did Kyle carry Vic away from the murder site? did he leave anything behind? or take something away that was then relevantly missing?
Were traces found at the murder site? a manmade item? parts of it? (glasses?) Could the item be linked to Vic? e.g. by DNA sample? was it personalized? was Vic the only one who had such item?
Were weather conditions relevant? at the time of murder? later? at the time of investigation? sun? rain? snow? wind?
Relevant how the police found out that Vic was dead? was he reported missing?
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Postby JenBurdoo1 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:29 pm

Was Vic shot in the head? Yes. but the bullet stuck in the head? No. one bullet? This. more?
Did Kyle carry Vic away from the murder site? Assume yes. did he leave anything behind? Yes. or take something away that was then relevantly missing?
Were traces found at the murder site? Yes. a manmade item? Yes. parts of it? No. (glasses? No.) Could the item be linked to Vic? Yes. e.g. by DNA sample? No. was it personalized? Yes. was Vic the only one who had such item? That particular item, yes.
Were weather conditions relevant? Possibly. at the time of murder? This. later? at the time of investigation? And this. sun? Most likely this. rain? snow? Though these could work too. wind?
Relevant how the police found out that Vic was dead? was he reported missing? No to both.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Found the Body

Postby trebor2 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:07 pm

Was part of Vic's brain found at the site? Part of his skull? His hair? Had Vic had something medically done to him that left a trace at the site? Such as a skull plate?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Never Found the Body

Postby JenBurdoo1 » Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:44 pm

Sorry, had an insanely busy week and forgot all about this.

Was part of Vic's brain found at the site? No. Part of his skull? No. His hair? No. Had Vic had something medically done to him that left a trace at the site? Yes. Such as a skull plate? This.

Spoiler:

Kyle shot Vic in the head, but failed to notice or collect a skull plate that came out of Vic's head in the process and was later found by detectives.

Taken from an Arthur Upfield "Bony" mystery story.
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