[Jenny] A Bird is the Word

[Jenny]

Derek calls Sarah and utters a phrase. Sarah hangs up. Why?

(might be a quickie)

[GalFisk]

WAG: "Hi Sarah, can you hang up?"
Does Derek want Sarah to hang up? Does Sarah do what Derek wants her to? Has Sarah asked for this call? Is she expecting it? Is it a regular phone call? Using cell phones? Is it a regulr hanging up of a phone call? WAG2: "Hi Sarah, can you hang up the painting?"

[Doriana]

Derek = H/A/M? Sarah = H/A/F? Do they know each other? If so, are they married? in a relationship? dating? parent/child? siblings? other relatives? friends? acquaintances? business partners? co-workers? service provider and client?

Does Sarah say anything during the call? Does she decide to hang up before taking the call? Before Derek uttered the phrase? While he did it? Afterwards?

[Jenny]

WAG: "Hi Sarah, can you hang up?" Yesish
Does Derek want Sarah to hang up? No Does Sarah do what Derek wants her to? No Has Sarah asked for this call? No Is she expecting it? No Is it a regular phone call? Yope Using cell phones? Yes Is it a regular hanging up of a phone call? Yes WAG2: "Hi Sarah, can you hang up the painting?" Yesish

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Derek = H/A/M? Irr. Sarah = H/A/F? Irr. Do they know each other? No If so, are they married? in a relationship? dating? parent/child? siblings? other relatives? friends? acquaintances? business partners? co-workers? service provider and client?

Does Sarah say anything during the call? No Does she decide to hang up before taking the call? No Before Derek uttered the phrase? No While he did it? No Afterwards? Yes

[AlbatrossLover]

Did Sarah misunderstand what Derek said? Did she hang up purely because of the phrase? Would she have talked to Derek if he had said something else?

Is Derek a telemarketer? Government worker? Did he call the right number?

[Jenny]

Did Sarah misunderstand what Derek said? No Did she hang up purely because of the phrase? Yes Would she have talked to Derek if he had said something else? Depends on what he said

Is Derek a telemarketer? No Government worker? No Did he call the right number? Yesish

[GalFisk]

Did he call the right person? Did he call Sarah's phone? Didhe want to talk to her? Did she want to talk to him? Did he do something dumb? Such as calling his friend's lost phone ti tellthefriend someone had found it? Did they know each other?

[Jenny]

Did he call the right person? Yesish Did he call Sarah's phone? Yes Did he want to talk to her? Yesish Did she want to talk to him? No Did he do something dumb? Such as calling his friend's lost phone to tell the friend someone had found it? No Did they know each other? No

[Doriana]

Is it a voice-only call? video call?
Is Derek's utterance a statement? an instruction? a question? an insult? Does Derek use the words "hang up" at all?
Does Derek speak English? Does Sarah understand the language Derek speaks in? Does Sarah think he's speaking a different language?

[GalFisk]

Did he also call other people? Did Sarah intentionally interpret Dere's words as a command or permission to hang up? did she want to hang up? Not want to speak to Derek? Did the call annoy her?

[Jenny]

Is it a voice-only call? Yes video call? No
Is Derek's utterance a statement? an instruction? a question? This an insult? Does Derek use the words "hang up" at all? No
Does Derek speak English? Yes Does Sarah understand the language Derek speaks in? Yes Does Sarah think he's speaking a different language? No

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Did he also call other people? Yes Did Sarah intentionally interpret Derek's words as a command or permission to hang up? Yesish did she want to hang up? Yes Not want to speak to Derek? Yes Did the call annoy her? Yope

[Doriana]

Relevant how Derek got Sarah's number? If so, was he given a list of numbers he is supposed to call? Did he compile such a list himself? Does he randomly dial numbers? Did he specifically search for Sarah's number?

Is he conducting a survey?

[Jenny]

Relevant how Derek got Sarah's number? No If so, was he given a list of numbers he is supposed to call? Did he compile such a list himself? Does he randomly dial numbers? Did he specifically search for Sarah's number?

Is he conducting a survey? No

[AlbatrossLover]

Was he a prank caller? A scammer?

[Jenny]

Was he a prank caller? No A scammer? Yes

[AlbatrossLover]

Did Derek mention something Sarah knew was false? Something she knew only a scammer would say?

Did he ask her to do something? To give him some kind of information?

[Jenny]

Did Derek mention something Sarah knew was false? No Something she knew only a scammer would say? Yes

Did he ask her to do something? No To give him some kind of information? No

[wolfier]

is "bitcoin" relevant?

[Jenny]

is "bitcoin" relevant? No

[GalFisk]

Does the scammer purport to: sell something? Buy something? Represent someone he doesn't? Offer a deal? A partnership in a crime? An MLM/pyramid scheme?

[Jenny]

Does the scammer purport to: sell something? Buy something? Represent someone he doesn't? Offer a deal? A partnership in a crime? An MLM/pyramid scheme? No to all

[JenBurdoo]

Does anyone die in the course of this story?

Does Derek use the word "hang" in his phrase? "Don't hang up?" "Hang on?"

Does Sarah have caller id? Relevant?

[markobr]

Does Derek want to make Sarah believe he is someone she knows? That he works for a certain institution?

Does Sarah take the call as part of her job?

Does Sarah see Derek's number? Relevant?

[TDGperson]

Did Derek say something that makes it obvious it's a scam? Did Derek offer Sarah a huge amount of money if she paid a little? Is Derek trying to trick Sarah into scamming other people?

[Jenny]

Does anyone die in the course of this story? No

Does Derek use the word "hang" in his phrase? "Don't hang up?" "Hang on?" No

Does Sarah have caller id? Relevant? No

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Does Derek want to make Sarah believe he is someone she knows? No That he works for a certain institution? No

Does Sarah take the call as part of her job? No

Does Sarah see Derek's number? Relevant? No

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Did Derek say something that makes it obvious it's a scam? Not to everyone Did Derek offer Sarah a huge amount of money if she paid a little? No Is Derek trying to trick Sarah into scamming other people? No

[Balin]

Did Derek mispronounce Sarah's name?

[Jenny]

Did Derek mispronounce Sarah's name? No

[JenBurdoo]

Is the scam 419? Related to computers? Microsoft?

WAG: Derek tries to get Sarah to log onto the Internet. She uses dialup, so the moment she does, the phone is disconnected.

[trebor]

Does he ask her for a personal ID? Such as her SSN/SIN?

Does he ask her a password-y type of question, such as “What is your mother’s maiden name?”? Does she have the thing that is the answer? (Like, she didn’t have a mother, or whatever?)

Is the question one a person would be likely to hear outside of a phone call? Is it a greeting?

Is any of the following relevant about Sarah: Her profession ? Her surname? Place of residence? Educational background? Religious beliefs? Hobbies? Relationship status? Gender? Sexual orientation? What cell provider she’s with? Her financial status?

[Jenny]

Is the scam 419? Related to computers? Microsoft?

WAG: Derek tries to get Sarah to log onto the Internet. She uses dialup, so the moment she does, the phone is disconnected. No to all

Does he ask her a password-y type of question, such as “What is your mother’s maiden name?”? Does she have the thing that is the answer? (Like, she didn’t have a mother, or whatever?)

Is the question one a person would be likely to hear outside of a phone call? Is it a greeting?

Is any of the following relevant about Sarah: Her profession ? Her surname? Place of residence? Educational background? Religious beliefs? Hobbies? Relationship status? Gender? Sexual orientation? What cell provider she’s with? Her financial status? No to all

Hint: You're misinterpreting the type of question he asked

[Doriana]

Is it a wh-question? A yes/no question?

[Jenny]

Is it a wh-question? No A yes/no question? Yes

[trebor]

Is the question something like: "May I speak to Sarah, please?" "Can I speak to the man of the house?" (shudder) "Is your parent around?" "Can I talk to you about [x]?" "Can I confirm [some bit of personal information, such as address, SIN/SSN, phone number called...]?" (Technically, I think this would still be a yes/no question.)

Is Sarah's age relevant? Is her gender relevant? Her profession? Is there something about her that would make the question stupid/pointless/redundant coming from someone who knew her?

Would her answer to the question be yes? No?

I'm trying to think of how to ask this concisely so it makes sense...is it just because we have cell phones now and not landlines, and most people are unlisted, so anyone calling should either be someone we know or someone we've given our contact info to for some reason, so if an unknown number calls and doesn't identify themselves immediately and explain their connection to us, we just hang up on them?

[Jenny]

Is the question something like: "May I speak to Sarah, please?" "Can I speak to the man of the house?" (shudder) "Is your parent around?" "Can I talk to you about [x]?" "Can I confirm [some bit of personal information, such as address, SIN/SSN, phone number called...]?" (Technically, I think this would still be a yes/no question.)

Is Sarah's age relevant? Is her gender relevant? Her profession? Is there something about her that would make the question stupid/pointless/redundant coming from someone who knew her?

Would her answer to the question be yes? No?

I'm trying to think of how to ask this concisely so it makes sense...is it just because we have cell phones now and not landlines, and most people are unlisted, so anyone calling should either be someone we know or someone we've given our contact info to for some reason, so if an unknown number calls and doesn't identify themselves immediately and explain their connection to us, we just hang up on them? All of this is more or less correct, so...

[irishelk]

Did he ask "Who is this?" "Who do I have the pleasure of speaking to today?" Or something that made it clear he was calling at random?

Is it fair to say her reason for hanging up is that she immediately recognizes him as a scammer and simply doesn't want to waste her time talking to him?