[Doriana] Kinda corny

[Doriana]

After talking to his lawyer, Simon (H/A/M) buys several corn stalks. Why?

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[CoffeeBean]

Does Simon transplant the stalks? Or try to do this?
Does Simon want corn for cooking or eating? Or for another use?

[Mimino]

Complete stalks? with roots? live stalks (i.e, that could be planted and would grow)?
Is he doing that in order to protect himself? to win a case? to avoid having to pay money? to prove a point?
Is the person he buys the stalks from relevant?
Taxation relevant? (corn cobs and complete stalks maybe taxed differently)

[WiZ]

Is Simon seeing his lawyer due to being involved in a litigation case? If so, civil? Criminal? As plaintiff? As defendant?

Is he seeking legal advice? For his business? For taxation? For conveyancing?

Will Simon present the stalks in court? Use them as a symbol of something?

Did the lawyer advise Simon to buy them? Does Simon do this to benefit himself? His lawyer? Someone he cares about? Does he do this to be detrimental to someone else?

Is Simon relevantly a farmer or landowner?

[Doriana]

CoffeeBean
Does Simon transplant the stalks? Yes Or try to do this?
Does Simon want corn for cooking or eating? No Or for another use? DOYD of "use"

Mimino
Complete stalks? with roots? live stalks (i.e, that could be planted and would grow)? Yes to all
Is he doing that in order to protect himself? to win a case? to avoid having to pay money? No to these to prove a point? Yesish
Is the person he buys the stalks from relevant? No
Taxation relevant? (corn cobs and complete stalks maybe taxed differently) No

WiZ
Is Simon seeing his lawyer due to being involved in a litigation case? No If so, civil? Criminal? As plaintiff? As defendant? n/a

Is he seeking legal advice? Yes For his business? For taxation? For conveyancing? But none of these

Will Simon present the stalks in court? Use them as a symbol of something? No to both

Did the lawyer advise Simon to buy them? No, but explore Does Simon do this to benefit himself? Yes His lawyer? Someone he cares about? No to these Does he do this to be detrimental to someone else? No, small ish

Is Simon relevantly a farmer or landowner? No

[Earnest]

Is the movie Interstellar relevant?
Is insurance relevant? Is privacy relevant?
WAG: There were speed cameras in front of his house. Whenever a car breaks the velocity limits a picture was taken in which also his car was present. Hence, each time a fine arrives at his house. He went to his lawyer who told him that he said "hey Simone, it would have been a can of corn if it was a speed gun!". So he got the idea of planting the corns to cover his car.

several corn stalks = enough to transplant a field?
Are crop circles relevant?
Did the idea come up to Simon because of something that the lawyer said? Because of something that he saw in his lawyer's office? Relevant that he went to his lawyer specifically? Could he have gone to someone else before?
Was Simon a criminal? Did he commit a crime? A minor crime?
Relevant where Simon transplanted the corns? In front of his house? In a field near his house? In front of someone else's house?

[biograd]

Is there anything unusual about the corn plants (other than the fact that they're corn plants--like for example if they were a patented type of genetically modified corn)?

Would any plant with edible parts work? any plant that grows over a certain height? any plant that grows dense enough to block the view through the field?

[Doriana]

Earnest
Is the movie Interstellar relevant? No
Is insurance relevant? Is privacy relevant? No to both
WAG: There were speed cameras in front of his house. Whenever a car breaks the velocity limits a picture was taken in which also his car was present. Hence, each time a fine arrives at his house. He went to his lawyer who told him that he said "hey Simone, it would have been a can of corn if it was a speed gun!". So he got the idea of planting the corns to cover his car. No

several corn stalks = enough to transplant a field? No, assume 20 or so
Are crop circles relevant? No
Did the idea come up to Simon because of something that the lawyer said? This Because of something that he saw in his lawyer's office? Relevant that he went to his lawyer specifically? Yes Could he have gone to someone else before? Assume no
Was Simon a criminal? Did he commit a crime? A minor crime? No to all
Relevant where Simon transplanted the corns? In front of his house? Yes, this In a field near his house? In front of someone else's house?

biograd
Is there anything unusual about the corn plants (other than the fact that they're corn plants--like for example if they were a patented type of genetically modified corn)? No

Would any plant with edible parts work? No any plant that grows over a certain height? No, but their height is somewhat relevantish any plant that grows dense enough to block the view through the field? No

[GalFisk]

Relevant properties of corn: being corn, specifically? Being grain? Being edible? Tall? Plants? Green? Vertical? Growing? Being possible to buy? To transplant? Is a law or rule relevant?

[Sundowner]

Are there any obscure property laws relevant? was he required to use his land for agricultural purposes in order not to lose it? so he planted some corn there?

[Doriana]

Relevant properties of corn: being corn, specifically? Yes Being grain? Being edible? Tall? Yes Plants? Green? Vertical? Somewhat Growing? Somewhat Being possible to buy? To transplant? Is a law or rule relevant? Yes, a rule

Are there any obscure property laws relevant? Not quite, but very OTRT was he required to use his land for agricultural purposes in order not to lose it? so he planted some corn there? No to these

[WiZ]

Does this have to do with fencing (in the 'perimeter wall' sense) or property boundaries? Views? Housing values?

[Doriana]

Does this have to do with fencing (in the 'perimeter wall' sense) or property boundaries? No Views? No Housing values? Potentially

[GalFisk]

Is the land it's growing on relevant? Does the land change some sort of legal or regulatory status with corn growing on it?

[Doriana]

Is the land it's growing on relevant? Does the land change some sort of legal or regulatory status with corn growing on it? No to both

[Sundowner]

Did he plant the corn stalks in a row? along the boundary of his land? on the side facing the street or a sidewalk?
Is some legal requirement about the distance plants must have from the boundary? like, plants that grow highet than 2 metres must be at least 1 metre away from the boundary?
Google Street View relevant?
Relevant that corn is edible? Woulf other high growing edible plants work as well (like tomatoes)?

[Doriana]

Did he plant the corn stalks in a row? Unknown, but assume yes along the boundary of his land? Unknown on the side facing the street or a sidewalk? Yes
Is some legal requirement about the distance plants must have from the boundary? No like, plants that grow highet than 2 metres must be at least 1 metre away from the boundary?
Google Street View relevant? No
Relevant that corn is edible? No Woulf other high growing edible plants work as well (like tomatoes)? Some would work, others wouldn't

[GalFisk]

Are any other plants relevant? WAG: is he growing a climbing plant, but is forbidden to put up a trellis for it to climb on, so he puts up corn plants instead?

[Doriana]

Are any other plants relevant? Yes WAG: is he growing a climbing plant, but is forbidden to put up a trellis for it to climb on, so he puts up corn plants instead? But not quite like this

[GalFisk]

Are the other plants his? Does he want them to: thrive? Die? Behave differently? Does he plant the corn near the plants? Are the other plants endangered? Does he want to remove them, but isn't allowed to? But if they're in a patch of corn, he's just weeding his cornfield, which is allowed? Edit: herbicides relevant? Pesticides? Synthetic fertilizers? Other chemicals?

[Doriana]

Are the other plants his? Yes Does he want them to: thrive? This Die? Behave differently? Does he plant the corn near the plants? FA Are the other plants endangered? No Does he want to remove them, but isn't allowed to? No But if they're in a patch of corn, he's just weeding his cornfield, which is allowed? n/a Edit: herbicides relevant? Pesticides? Synthetic fertilizers? Other chemicals? No to all

[Sundowner]

Are the other plants growing somewhere near his house? near the place where the corn will be planted?
Did he remove the other plants? was he forced to remove them? did the plants die?
Was the corn to replace this plants? to be planted instead of them? to resemble them in some way?
Were there strict rules on what one could plant in front of the house? and corn was one of the things that was still allowed?
Are the other plats edible as well?
Will the corn be planted to conceal them?

[Doriana]

Are the other plants growing somewhere near his house? Not at the time of the puzzle statement near the place where the corn will be planted? DOYD of "near"
Did he remove the other plants? Yes was he forced to remove them? Yes did the plants die? No
Was the corn to replace this plants? Yes, but... to be planted instead of them? Yes, but... to resemble them in some way? No
Were there strict rules on what one could plant in front of the house? Yes and corn was one of the things that was still allowed? Yes
Are the other plats edible as well? No
Will the corn be planted to conceal them? No

[LemonCurry]

Does he have a dispute? Over what can be planted in front of his house? With a neighbour? With a state authority?
Does he plant the corn in order to point out that the rules are nonsensical? Does he rather want his old plants back?

[Doriana]

Does he have a dispute? Over what can be planted in front of his house? Yes to both With a neighbour? With a state authority? Neither
Does he plant the corn in order to point out that the rules are nonsensical? Yope Does he rather want his old plants back? Yes (the old plants were sunflowers btw)

[LemonCurry]

Does he have the dispute with the owner of the property? With a co-owner? A tenant? A family member?

Does he want to convince the other party into consenting to the sunflowers? Since as long as the sunflowers won't come back, there will be corn stalks?

[GalFisk]

Was there an argument against sunflowers that also applies to corn? Such as their tallness? Is he arguing against a landlord? HOA? Relevant?

[Doriana]

Was there an argument against sunflowers that also applies to corn? Unknown Such as their tallness? But this might be the case Is he arguing against a landlord? HOA? Both could work, but it was a HOA Relevant? Yes

[Sundowner]

Did the HOA decide that there should be no tall growing flowers in front of the house? But as corn is not a flower this decision would not apply to corn?

[Doriana]

Did the HOA decide that there should be no tall growing flowers in front of the house? No But as corn is not a flower this decision would not apply to corn? n/a

[GalFisk]

Relevant why the HOA wanted the sunflowers gone? Did they tell him the actual reason? Another reason? Did they ask him to remove them? Remove them by force? Threaten a fine? Relevant? Edit: did he ask the lawyer to find a loophole in what they'd told him? Did the lawyer speak to anyone else? Did the HOA write something relevant down? Such as a list of rules and regulations?

[Doriana]

Relevant why the HOA wanted the sunflowers gone? No Did they tell him the actual reason? Another reason? Neither, they just told him sunflowers were not allowed Did they ask him to remove them? This Remove them by force? Threaten a fine? Relevant? Somewhat Edit: did he ask the lawyer to find a loophole in what they'd told him? He didn't ask the lawyer to do that, but the lawyer did so anyway Did the lawyer speak to anyone else? No Did the HOA write something relevant down? Yes Such as a list of rules and regulations? Yes

[GalFisk]

Relevant what he asked the lawyer for? Did he want to sue the HOA? Relevant how they reacted to the corn?

[Sundowner]

Did the rules specifically disallow some plants? or list all allowed plants, and plants not on the list were not allowed?
Did the rules say that the garden in front of the house must be lawn, or grassland? upon which the lawyer pointed out that corn is, botanically, grass?

[Doriana]

Relevant what he asked the lawyer for? Yes, he asks the lawyer to review the HOA contract to see if there's any way for him to keep his sunflowers Did he want to sue the HOA? No Relevant how they reacted to the corn? Yes, this is the last missing piece

Did the rules specifically disallow some plants? Yes or list all allowed plants, and plants not on the list were not allowed? No
Did the rules say that the garden in front of the house must be lawn, or grassland? No upon which the lawyer pointed out that corn is, botanically, grass? n/a

Almost there!

[Sundowner]

Relevant for which reason sunflowers were disallowed? Did the rules specifically mention sunflowers? or rather, all plants with some specific properties? properties that apply to sunflowers? but not to corn?
Is the idea that the home owners will dislike corn even more than sunflowers? so then might allow sunflowers just to avoid that someone plants corn there?

[Doriana]

Relevant for which reason sunflowers were disallowed? No and unknown Did the rules specifically mention sunflowers? Yes or rather, all plants with some specific properties? properties that apply to sunflowers? but not to corn?
Is the idea that the home owners will dislike corn even more than sunflowers? Yes so then might allow sunflowers just to avoid that someone plants corn there? Yes

********SPOILER********

Simon plants sunflowers in front of his house, but his HOA makes him remove them. He then asks his lawyer to review the HOA contract to see if there's any way to keep the sunflowers. The lawyer finds that the contract includes a long list of plants that are not allowed (including sunflowers) and, in a throwaway comment, points out that corn is allowed. This gives Simon an idea: He replaces the sunflowers with unsightly corn stalks, and once the HOA notices how ugly they look, they allow him to plant his sunflowers again.

Well done, Sunflower, err, Sundowner, and thanks for playing everyone!