[Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

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[Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby doriana_ » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:18 pm

Last weekend, storm Eunice hit parts of Europe - including the Netherlands, where I live - pretty badly. Because of the storm, I brought a screw driver with me to work. Please explain.

True story, so I = Doriana = H/A/F
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:31 pm

Did you intend to drive a screw? Pry something? Open something? Threaten violence? Repair damage? Did you bring it as a precaution? Because you expected to use it? Because the screwdrivers at work had been blown away? Do you normally use a screwdriver at work? Relevant what your profession is? Is a specific type of storm damage relevant? If so, flooding? Fallen trees? Damaged buildings? Power outages? Dangerous downed power lines? Is a storm precaution relevant? Such as covering windows? Sandbag dams? Did you bring the screwdriver to work before the storm? During? After? Type of screwdriver relevant? Size? Was it electric? Did it have a voltage testing lamp inside?
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Postby Earnestnew » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:38 am

Because of the storm, I brought a screwdriver with me to work --> did you bring it only the first time you went to work after the storm? Every time? Until something has been fixed?
Did you use it inside a building? In order to work? In order to come back home? Do you, in fact, relevantly use the screwdriver? Would another tool have worked as well? Is a bike relevant? Is the mean of transport that you use to go to work relevant? Is PC relevant? Technology? headphones? Did you use the screwdriver to screw? unscrew? Internet connection? Wi-fi?

Are the consequences of the storm relevant or the storm in itself? I mean is the screwdriver useful during the storm? Only after it?
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:12 am

Did you intend to drive a screw? Yes Pry something? Open something? Threaten violence? Repair damage? Did you bring it as a precaution? Because you expected to use it? This Because the screwdrivers at work had been blown away? No, FA Do you normally use a screwdriver at work? No, FA Relevant what your profession is? No Is a specific type of storm damage relevant? If so, flooding? Fallen trees? Damaged buildings? Power outages? Dangerous downed power lines? Is a storm precaution relevant? Such as covering windows? Sandbag dams? No to all Did you bring the screwdriver to work before the storm? This During? After? Type of screwdriver relevant? Size? Yes for context, it was a #2 Phillips screwdriver Was it electric? Did it have a voltage testing lamp inside? No/irrel to these
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:31 am

Did you leave the screwdriver at work? Did you use it at work? Did you screw something at home, and brought the screwdriver to work so that you could later come home and unscrew whatever it was? Did you screw shut your front door?
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby doriana_ » Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:36 pm

Welcome back, Earnest, and sorry for skipping your questions!

Because of the storm, I brought a screwdriver with me to work --> did you bring it only the first time you went to work after the storm? Only once, but not after the storm Every time? Until something has been fixed?
Did you use it inside a building? Yes In order to work? No In order to come back home? No Do you, in fact, relevantly use the screwdriver? I used it, but the puzzle would also work if I hadn't used it Would another tool have worked as well? No Is a bike relevant? No Is the mean of transport that you use to go to work relevant? No, but explore Is PC relevant? Technology? headphones? No to these Did you use the screwdriver to screw? unscrew? This Internet connection? Wi-fi? No to these

Are the consequences of the storm relevant or the storm in itself? I mean is the screwdriver useful during the storm? Only after it? It's useful during the storm, but beware of FA

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Did you leave the screwdriver at work? Did you use it at work? Did you screw something at home, and brought the screwdriver to work so that you could later come home and unscrew whatever it was? Did you screw shut your front door? No to all
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:28 pm

Did you use it before getting to work? Before starting work? After leaving work? Did you fasten something? Unscrew something? Did you go to work using: feet? Bike? Motorbike/moped? bus? Car? train? Plane? Subway? Tram? Work from home? did the storm arrive while you were at work? Relevant? Does the screw(s) in question go into: metal? Wood? Plastic? A building? A vehicle? did you screw one screw? 2? More than 5? More than 10? Would it work if it was an electric screwdriver? Relevant how you transported it? Was it your screwdriver? would it work if it belonged to someone else?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm

Did you use it before getting to work? Before starting work? After leaving work? This Did you fasten something? Unscrew something? This Did you go to work using: feet? Bike? Motorbike/moped? bus? Car? train? Plane? Subway? Tram? Irrel, but trains and planes are relevant Work from home? No did the storm arrive while you were at work? No Relevant? No Does the screw(s) in question go into: metal? Wood? Plastic? Plastic and metal A building? A vehicle? None of these did you screw one screw? 2? More than 5? More than 10? Irrel, any of these would work Would it work if it was an electric screwdriver? Yes Relevant how you transported it? No Was it your screwdriver? Yes but irrel would it work if it belonged to someone else? Yes
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Postby Biograd1 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:24 pm

Is it relevant that modes of public transportation might be delayed by poor weather?

Would you have used the screwdriver on another item that you brought with you while going home from work? on some part of your home when getting back?
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby Sundowner64 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:50 am

Did you expect to have to use the screwdriver definitely when you deciced to bring it to work? or did you take it just in case?
If there was not the storm, would you still need the screwdriver for the same purpose? but just not need to bring it to work? because you would be able to fetch one from somewhere else? to get one at home?
Would you use the screwdriver while on a plane? on a train? indoors? outdoors?
Would you unscrew some screws in order to unfasten something? to open something?
If there was not the storm, would you then be able to unfasten/open/take off this item without a screwdriver? would there be no need to unfasten/open/take it off?
Would you need the screwdriver to replace some item that the storm possibly could break?
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby GalFisk » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:02 am

Were you the one who screwed in the screws that you later unscrewed? Were the screws yours? The screwed object?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:54 pm

Biograd1
Is it relevant that modes of public transportation might be delayed by poor weather? Yes

Would you have used the screwdriver on another item that you brought with you while going home from work? on some part of your home when getting back? No to both

Sundowner64
Did you expect to have to use the screwdriver definitely when you deciced to bring it to work? No or did you take it just in case? Yes
If there was not the storm, would you still need the screwdriver for the same purpose? Yes but just not need to bring it to work? Correct because you would be able to fetch one from somewhere else? to get one at home? This - well done!
Would you use the screwdriver while on a plane? No, but... on a train? No indoors? Yes outdoors? No
Would you unscrew some screws in order to unfasten something? This to open something?
If there was not the storm, would you then be able to unfasten/open/take off this item without a screwdriver? would there be no need to unfasten/open/take it off? No to both
Would you need the screwdriver to replace some item that the storm possibly could break? No

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Were you the one who screwed in the screws that you later unscrewed? Were the screws yours? The screwed object? No to all
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Postby GalFisk » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:54 am

So you brought the screwdriver with you in case you got home late, correct? Or not got home at all? Did you expect not being able to get it from your home? Or it being inconvenient? Or fetching it would disturb someone? Such as a kid sleeping? After unscrewing the screws, did you: remove them? Screw them in again? Leave them in place, unscrewed? Do you unscrew these screws: daily? Weekly? Monthly? Yearly? Just this once? At irregular intervals? Does the person screwing them in expect you to unscrew them? Want you to? Relevantly not want them unscrewed?
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Postby Bardificer » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:01 pm

Do you unscrew something while on public transportation? On a train? On a plane? While waiting for transportation? If the latter, at a station? At an airport?

Are you unscrewing something on/in your luggage? Part of a suitcase? On an electronic device?

Are the screws related to something you might do to pass the time while on public transportation? Or while waiting for a delayed transport? If so, entertainment? Work?
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Re: [Doriana] Eu-nice? More like Eu-terrible!

Postby doriana_ » Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:06 pm

GalFisk
So you brought the screwdriver with you in case you got home late, correct? No Or not got home at all? Yes Did you expect not being able to get it from your home? This Or it being inconvenient? Or fetching it would disturb someone? Such as a kid sleeping? After unscrewing the screws, did you: remove them? Screw them in again? This Leave them in place, unscrewed? Do you unscrew these screws: daily? Weekly? Monthly? Yearly? Just this once? At irregular intervals? This Does the person FA screwing them in expect you to unscrew them? Possibly Want you to? Possibly Relevantly not want them unscrewed? No

Bardificer
Do you unscrew something while on public transportation? On a train? On a plane? While waiting for transportation? This If the latter, at a station? At an airport? and this

Are you unscrewing something on/in your luggage? Yes, something in my luggage Part of a suitcase? On an electronic device? No to these

Are the screws related to something you might do to pass the time while on public transportation? Or while waiting for a delayed transport? If so, entertainment? Work? No to all
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Postby jmorahan » Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:41 pm

Are you waiting for a plane? Or a train / other land transport from the airport? relevant?

The item in your luggage:
Is it a container?
Are you unscrewing it: to open it? to disassemble it? to detach it from another object? to adjust its configuration?
Do you normally carry it in your luggage, even when not also carrying a screwdriver?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:02 pm

Are you waiting for a plane? Yes Or a train / other land transport from the airport? No relevant? Yes

The item in your luggage:
Is it a container? No
Are you unscrewing it: to open it? to disassemble it? This to detach it from another object? to adjust its configuration?
Do you normally carry it in your luggage, even when not also carrying a screwdriver? No
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:55 am

After you disassemble it, do you: remove something? Change something? Put something inside? Is it a gadget? Is it electronic? A toy? Airport security relevant?
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Postby trebor2 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:15 pm

If you had been able to get home, would you not have needed the screwdriver? Would you use the screwdriver to access travel version of something you have at home? Would you use it on something related to your work?
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Postby doriana_ » Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:47 am

GalFisk
After you disassemble it, do you: remove something? Change something? Put something inside? Is it a gadget? Is it electronic? A toy? Airport security relevant? No to all

trebor2
If you had been able to get home, would you not have needed the screwdriver? No, I would still have needed it Would you use the screwdriver to access travel version of something you have at home? Would you use it on something related to your work? No to both
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:18 am

Is there any way to disassemble this thing besides using a screwdriver? Do you know for sure that you'll need to disassemble it this day? Or did you bring the screwdriver as a precaution? Do you disassemble it in order to fix an issue? Reach something/somewhere? Is it bigger than a breadbox? Is it handheld? Is it related to your profession? Is it something you use while traveling? Is the scredriver particularly small? Large? Long? Specialized? Is the object a pair of eyeglasses?
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Postby doriana_ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:18 pm

Is there any way to disassemble this thing besides using a screwdriver? Not without (potentially) damaging the object Do you know for sure that you'll need to disassemble it this day? Or did you bring the screwdriver as a precaution? This Do you disassemble it in order to fix an issue? Reach something/somewhere? No to these Is it bigger than a breadbox? Yes Is it handheld? Yes Is it related to your profession? No Is it something you use while traveling? No Is the scredriver particularly small? Large? Long? Specialized? No to all Is the object a pair of eyeglasses? No
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:33 pm

Does it have wheel(s)? Does the need to disassemble it arise randomly? Does it have an inside? Do you bring it on travels? Is there something wrong with it?
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Postby trebor2 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:02 pm

Is flying for work a regular occurrence for you? Relevant? Did you leave your home in the morning, go to another city, and then have to return the same day? Did you overnight somewhere? Were you away longer? (Being in Germany several years ago was the first time I came across people who would take a commuter flight regularly. To me it was like, "Why not just live in the city you work in?". But cities here are much more spread out, generally speaking.)

Is a particular aspect of the storm relevant? Flooding? Snow? Wind? Do we need to know specifics about why you were worried about getting home? Not being able to fly in that weather? Not being able to get home from the other airport once you'd landed?

The thing you might disassemble: is it a grooming/hygiene product? Something you use in preparation for sleep? Something to do with a medical need? Is it used for entertainment? Sustenance? Is it your actual luggage? Is it something you had with you? Is it something you have with you most days? Only when the weather is bad? Is it clothing? Protection against the elements? COVID-related? Something to be used in an emergency? When stranded?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:45 am

Would the need to disassemble that item arise before you board the plane? before you pass the security check? during security check? when you enter the airport building? before?
Relevant how you get to the airport? by public transport? by car? by bicycle?
Would the need to disassemble the item also arise when you did the same trip by train? (given that it's possible) Would you then also have this item with you?
Is the purpose of the trip relevant? vacation? visiting friends/relatives? business? conference? sports competition?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri May 06, 2022 3:31 pm

GalFisk
Does it have wheel(s)? No Does the need to disassemble it arise randomly? No Does it have an inside? Yes but irrel Do you bring it on travels? I bring it on some but not all travels Is there something wrong with it? No

trebor2
Is flying for work a regular occurrence for you? FA, I wasn't flying for work Relevant? Did you leave your home in the morning, go to another city, and then have to return the same day? No Did you overnight somewhere? Yes Were you away longer? Yes, 3 days (Being in Germany several years ago was the first time I came across people who would take a commuter flight regularly. To me it was like, "Why not just live in the city you work in?". But cities here are much more spread out, generally speaking.)

Is a particular aspect of the storm relevant? No Flooding? Snow? Wind? Do we need to know specifics about why you were worried about getting home? Yes Not being able to fly in that weather? No Not being able to get home from the other airport once you'd landed? No

The thing you might disassemble: is it a grooming/hygiene product? Something you use in preparation for sleep? Something to do with a medical need? No to these Is it used for entertainment? Yes for SVV of entertainment Sustenance? Is it your actual luggage? No to these Is it something you had with you? Yes Is it something you have with you most days? Only when the weather is bad? Is it clothing? Protection against the elements? COVID-related? Something to be used in an emergency? When stranded? No to all of these

Sundowner64
Would the need to disassemble that item arise before you board the plane? Yes before you pass the security check? Yes during security check? No when you enter the airport building? Between entering the airport building and going through security before? No
Relevant how you get to the airport? Yes! by public transport? this by car? by bicycle?
Would the need to disassemble the item also arise when you did the same trip by train? No (given that it's possible) Would you then also have this item with you? Yes
Is the purpose of the trip relevant? Yes, to figure out what the item is vacation? visiting friends/relatives? business? conference? sports competition? This

RECAP because most of the relevant information has been discovered and just needs to be put together

I was travelling to a sports competition by plane. I expected having to take apart an item, which is why I brought a screwdriver with me to the airport. If it hadn't been for the storm, I would have gone home after work to grab the screwdriver and then catch a train to the airport, but instead, I brought the screwdriver with me when I left for work in the morning. Left to figure out: Why exactly was I unable to go home after work?
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Postby Sundowner64 » Mon May 09, 2022 7:30 pm

Was the train connection between your home and the airport interrupted due to the storm? or the public transport between you workplace and your home?
Did you expect the trains would be late and it would be too risky to travel home first? so you decided to go from your workplace directly to the airport?
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Postby trebor2 » Tue May 10, 2022 5:27 am

Did you expect that more people would be taking the train than if it hadn't been storming? Were you worried that you wouldn't be able to get home and to the airport in time? (Perhaps fewer people walking/biking, or feeling safe driving their own vehicles?) Does your concern with being able to get home have anything to do with sports/the competition, other than needing a screwdriver? (In other words, if this had been just a vacation and you had planned on picking up your luggage after work prior to going to the airport, would you still have brought your stuff with you to work once you realized there would be a storm?)

The thing that you brought the screwdriver for: piece of sporting equipment? Lacrosse stuff? Is it something that is perfectly fine to carry on public transportation as is, but would be too big for a suitcase/carry-on without being taken apart? Relevant?
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Postby doriana_ » Tue May 10, 2022 2:00 pm

Sundowner
Was the train connection between your home and the airport interrupted due to the storm? Yes or the public transport between you workplace and your home? No/irrel (I bike to work)
Did you expect the trains would be late and it would be too risky to travel home first? "Not running at all" rather than late, but yes so you decided to go from your workplace directly to the airport? Yes

trebor2
Did you expect that more people would be taking the train than if it hadn't been storming? No Were you worried that you wouldn't be able to get home and to the airport in time? Yes (Perhaps fewer people walking/biking, or feeling safe driving their own vehicles?) Does your concern with being able to get home have anything to do with sports/the competition, other than needing a screwdriver? No (In other words, if this had been just a vacation and you had planned on picking up your luggage after work prior to going to the airport, would you still have brought your stuff with you to work once you realized there would be a storm? Yes)

The thing that you brought the screwdriver for: piece of sporting equipment? Lacrosse stuff? Is it something that is perfectly fine to carry on public transportation as is, but would be too big for a suitcase/carry-on without being taken apart? Yes to all Relevant? Just for context

Well done, Sundowner and trevor! Time for the

********SPOILER********

My lacrosse team had an evening flight to Norway, so I had planned to go to work, pick up my luggage at home afterwards, and then go to the airport. However, the national rail service announced that trains would stop running at 2pm due to the storm. So I decided to head straight to the airport after work, which means that I had to take all of my luggage with me - including a screwdriver that we use to disassemble our sticks to make them fit our luggage. (We made it to Norway but were stuck there on our way back, but that's a different story)
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