[Sarisberie] Cleaning Windows

[Sarisberie]

Several years ago, Bill gave Melinda an item of little value. As time passes it gets smaller, but her guilt grows. What is it, and why does she feel this way?

[Sundowner64]

Did Melinda keep the item all the time? Did she give it away? throw it away? lose it?
Did the item get smaller due to a natural process? were parts taken off or cut off? was it used up? Did the item deteriorate in quality?
Is it a tangible item? something one could hold in a hand? in two hands?
Was it Bill's intention that Melinda keeps the item as long as she wishes? forever? should Melinda have returned the item? at a fixed point in time? when she does not need it any more? Did Melinda ever need the item?
Did the item have a practical use? Did it help Melinda to accomplish a task?
Did Melinda feel guilty because she was not able to return the item? to return it in the same quality or quantity she received it? to compensate Bill for the item?

[Sarisberie]

Did Melinda keep the item all the time? assume yes Did she give it away? throw it away? lose it?
Did the item get smaller due to a natural process? all no were parts taken off or cut off? yes was it used up? eventually it will be Did the item deteriorate in quality? no
Is it a tangible item? something one could hold in a hand? in two hands? yes to these
Was it Bill's intention that Melinda keeps the item as long as she wishes? forever? irrel should Melinda have returned the item? possibly, explore at a fixed point in time? when she does not need it any more? not these Did Melinda ever need the item? yope, cvv of 'need'
Did the item have a practical use? yes Did it help Melinda to accomplish a task? yes
Did Melinda feel guilty because she was not able to return the item? to return it in the same quality or quantity she received it? both of these are relevant to compensate Bill for the item? no

[GalFisk]

Is the item a substance? Such as soap? A sweet? Is it eaten? Did she make it smaller? Someone else? Something else? Does it melt? Is it tasty? Toxic? Volatile?

[Sarisberie]

Is the item a substance? could you explain what you mean by 'substance', please? Such as soap? not soap A sweet? no Is it eaten? no Did she make it smaller? yes Someone else? no Something else? laterally, but could confuse Does it melt? not normally Is it tasty? no Toxic? generally no; could be in certain circumstances Volatile? no

[GalFisk]

Substance: something defined primarily by of its chemical and physical composition, such as soap, food, drink, poison, lava, sand etc.

Did she make it smaller by: wearing it down? Using up parts of it? Licking it? Making it shrink? Having it evaporate? Did she want it to get smaller? Know it would get smaller?

[Sarisberie]

Substance: something defined primarily by of its chemical and physical composition, such as soap, food, drink, poison, lava, sand etc. None of those. I suppose it could be defined as a substance then... I'll say probably, but I don't think it'll help you.

Did she make it smaller by: wearing it down? Using up parts of it? yes Licking it? Making it shrink? Having it evaporate? no to these Did she want it to get smaller? irrel Know it would get smaller? yes

[GalFisk]

I've a hunch, PM sent.

[Sarisberie]

I've a hunch, PM sent.
Reply sent.

[GalFisk]

So it's not a pencil with a message that gets subverted as it's sharpened. Is there text on it? Do people normally make this item smaller? Does she feel guilt because it's smaller? Because she uses it? Is the guilt felt towards Bill? Does Bill know it gets smaller? Does it get: shorter? Thinner? Flatter? Narrower? Shrunken? Are bits cut off? Broken off? Bitten off? Shaved off? Worn off?

[Sarisberie]

So it's not a pencil with a message that gets subverted as it's sharpened. no Is there text on it? no Do people normally make this item smaller? yes Does she feel guilt because it's smaller? yesish Because she uses it? yes Is the guilt felt towards Bill? no Does Bill know it gets smaller? yes Does it get: shorter? yes Thinner? yesish Flatter? Narrower? Shrunken? Are bits cut off? this Broken off? Bitten off? Shaved off? Worn off? and no to the rest

[Sundowner64]

Are the bits cut off in the process of using this item? or when making the item usable again after use (like sharpening a knife)?
Is the item itself used to accomplish some task? or the cut-off bits?
Does Melinda feel guilty because she should not have used this item? because she should rather have used a similar item of her own? because she should have used something different? because she should have avoided to be in a situation where she needs that item?
Did Bill give Melinda the item out of his own decision? Did he know Melinda would need it some day? Did Melinda ask him?
Is Bill still alive? Did Melinda inherit the item from Bill?
Did Melinda promise Bill to return the item? in full quantity? assuming she would never actually need it?
Would people normally feel guilty about using an item like this?

[Sarisberie]

Are the bits cut off in the process of using this item? yes or when making the item usable again after use (like sharpening a knife)? no
Is the item itself used to accomplish some task? or the cut-off bits? this
Does Melinda feel guilty because she should not have used this item? yes because she should rather have used a similar item of her own? yes because she should have used something different? because she should have avoided to be in a situation where she needs that item? no to these
Did Bill give Melinda the item out of his own decision? yes Did he know Melinda would need it some day? irrel Did Melinda ask him? no
Is Bill still alive? yes Did Melinda inherit the item from Bill? no
Did Melinda promise Bill to return the item? in full quantity? assuming she would never actually need it? no to these
Would people normally feel guilty about using an item like this? Yope... can you reword?

[GalFisk]

Did Bill expect Melinda to use the item? To not use it? To preserve it? Are the bits removed by hand? With a tool? With some other body part? Are the bits: eaten? Discarded? Destroyed? Burned? Flushed? Is the item a roll?

[Sarisberie]

Did Bill expect Melinda to use the item? yes To not use it? To preserve it? Are the bits removed by hand? could be this... With a tool? or this With some other body part? Are the bits: eaten? Discarded? at some point, yes Destroyed? Burned? Flushed? Is the item a roll? yes

[Biograd1]

Is it a roll of stamps? stickers? tickets?

Is she guilty because she feels she shouldn't need so many of the items? because the items were more valuable to her if she had kept them on the roll rather than used them (like rare stamps)?

[Sarisberie]

Is it a roll of stamps? stickers? tickets?

Is she guilty because she feels she shouldn't need so many of the items? because the items were more valuable to her if she had kept them on the roll rather than used them (like rare stamps)? No to all

[GalFisk]

Is it a continuous roll? Such as a roll of tape? Or foil? A roll with discrete bits? Such as perforated sheets of toilet paper? Is the rolled material: paper? Plastic? Metal? Fabric? Thread? Wire? Fiber? Did Bill expect Melinda to feel guilty?

[Sarisberie]

Is it a continuous roll? yes Such as a roll of tape? Or foil? this, or clingfilm would work too A roll with discrete bits? Such as perforated sheets of toilet paper? Is the rolled material: paper? Plastic? this Metal? or this Fabric? Thread? Wire? Fiber? Did Bill expect Melinda to feel guilty? no

[Sundowner64]

Did Melinda feel guilty about what she used the clingfilm for?
About the fact that she used it? because it's a waste of resources?
Did she have a different way to achieve the same thing without clingfilm?
Did she ever say to Bill or other people that she does not use clingfilm? because of its ecological impact?
Did she in some sense feel guilty for lying?

[Sarisberie]

Did Melinda feel guilty about what she used the clingfilm for? no
About the fact that she used it? this because it's a waste of resources? no
Did she have a different way to achieve the same thing without clingfilm? irrel
Did she ever say to Bill or other people that she does not use clingfilm? because of its ecological impact? no
Did she in some sense feel guilty for lying? no and FA

[GalFisk]

Does she feel guilty because of what happens to the torn-off film? To the roll? Does the roll serve any purpose besides dispensing cling film when needed? Such as being a certain size? Or weight? Or color? Or having some other property that diminishes when depleted? Is the roll on a cardboard tube? Plastic tube? Metal tube or rod? Relevant? Would she feel guity if she'd bought the roll helself? Is the relationship between her and Bill relevant? Is Bill still alive?

[Sarisberie]

Does she feel guilty because of what happens to the torn-off film? To the roll? Does the roll serve any purpose besides dispensing cling film when needed? no to these Such as being a certain size? size is somewhat relevant Or weight? Or color? Or having some other property that diminishes when depleted? Is the roll on a cardboard tube? this but irrel Plastic tube? Metal tube or rod? Relevant? Would she feel guity if she'd bought the roll helself? No! Is the relationship between her and Bill relevant? yes Is Bill still alive? yes

[GalFisk]

Does she like Bill? Does Bill like her? Relevant why it took several years to deplete the roll? Was it originally bigger than a normal kitchen foil roll? Was it unused for a long time? Relevant why she's not buying her own? Is she poor?

[Sarisberie]

Does she like Bill? Yes and no, explore... Does Bill like her? yes Relevant why it took several years to deplete the roll? yes Was it originally bigger than a normal kitchen foil roll? yes, assume catering size Was it unused for a long time? assume she uses it rarely, and that's relevant Relevant why she's not buying her own? well, Bill's given her this one, so she doesn't need to Is she poor? no

[GalFisk]

Does she both like and not like Bill? Did she like him before but not anymore? Does she like him but dislike some aspect of him? Or some action of his? Does she dislike him but like some aspect of him? Or some action of his? Such as giving her this roll? Are other emotions besides like and dislike relevant? Are they related? Are they or have they been romantically involved? Did he give it in order to do something nice? Because he expected anything in return?

[Sarisberie]

Does she both like and not like Bill? yes Did she like him before but not anymore? no Does she like him but dislike some aspect of him? Or some action of his? Does she dislike him but like some aspect of him? Or some action of his? she likes him but dislikes his action/s Such as giving her this roll? this is part of it Are other emotions besides like and dislike relevant? there are a couple of other things too Are they related? Are they or have they been romantically involved? yes, they're married Did he give it in order to do something nice? possibly but irrel Because he expected anything in return? irrel

[Sundowner64]

Are the action(s) of Bill she dislikes related to the clingfilm roll?
Did Bill steal the roll? from his workplace?

[Sarisberie]

Are the action(s) of Bill she dislikes related to the clingfilm roll? yes
Did Bill steal the roll? yes from his workplace? for svv of 'workplace' yes.

***********SPOILER**************************

Bill is a thief. Melinda hates the fact that he steals from other folks’ homes, and she feels guilty because she knows he stole the clingfilm for her to use. Also, he’s a bully, so she doesn’t want to annoy him by not using it.


Well done to Sundowner64 for the solve, and also to Galfisk and Biograd1