[Bardificer] Nighthawks

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[Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:02 pm

She reluctantly ordered something. When she tasted it, it was better than she expected. She immediately threw it away.
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:03 pm

Did she expect it to be good? Bad? Neither? Was it good? Very good? Amazing? Was it addictive? And she threw it away so she wouldn't get tempted into addiction? Did she order it reluctantly because she expected it to be worse than it was? Because she didn't want it? Because she expected to throw it away? Was it food? Drink? Medicine? Drug? Was it edible? Dangerous? Toxic? Did she order it with the intention of tasting it? Did the person she ordered it from deliver it with the intention that it should be tasted? With the expectation that it'd be thrown away? Was it expensive? Rare? A delicacy?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Sarisberie » Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:31 pm

Did it taste bad? Was it something she had tasted before, number of times = ? Was she curious? Were there memories attached to it? Re her reluctance, was it necessary for her to order it? Did she order it for herself, or someone else? E.g. she had to taste it to make sure it wasn't poisoned before giving it away? To confirm something? Was she allergic to it? Did she do this recently? A long time ago?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby trebor2 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:06 pm

She = HAF?

Did she order it for herself? Somebody else?

Nighthawks...was she at a diner? Was she a new mother?

Even though the thing was better than she expected, was it still god-awful?

Is she a sommelier?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:19 pm

GalFisk

Did she expect it to be good? Bad? Yes, at least a bit. Neither? Was it good? Very good? Probably in this range. Amazing?
Was it addictive? Irrel., but it is somewhat! And she threw it away so she wouldn't get tempted into addiction? No. Did she order it reluctantly because she expected it to be worse than it was? Primarily this. Because she didn't want it? Because she expected to throw it away? No to rest.
Was it food? Drink? This.Medicine? Drug? Was it edible? Yes. Dangerous? Toxic? No to rest.
Did she order it with the intention of tasting it? Yes. Did the person she ordered it from deliver it with the intention that it should be tasted? Yes. With the expectation that it'd be thrown away? No. Was it expensive? Irr. Rare? A delicacy? No.


Sarisberie

Did it taste bad? No. Was it something she had tasted before, number of times = ? Yes. Was she curious? No. Were there memories attached to it? No. Re her reluctance, was it necessary for her to order it? Yes, or at least she had good reason to. Did she order it for herself, This. or someone else? E.g. she had to taste it to make sure it wasn't poisoned before giving it away? To confirm something? Was she allergic to it? No to rest.
Did she do this recently? A long time ago? You mean the time between ordering and tasting? It is recent/a short time.


trebor2

She = HAF? Yes.

Did she order it for herself? Yes. Somebody else? No.

Nighthawks...was she at a diner? No, but close. Was she a new mother? No.

Even though the thing was better than she expected, was it still god-awful? No.

Is she a sommelier? No, good thought!
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:00 am

Was it an alcoholic beverage? Did other people urge her to try it?
Was she in a restaurant or bar? was she together with other people?
Relevant how exactly she throw it away? Did she pour it into the sink?
Did she have some other intention with throwing away the stuff than just getting rid of it?
Did she mention to anyone that it's better than expected?
Did she have to pay for it? Relevant?
Did she try different things, this one just being one of them?
Any bet or wager involved?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby trebor2 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:56 pm

Is it coffee? Tea? A soft drink? Is she an actor on set, and they have to keep the liquid in her cup at the same level at the beginning of each take for continuity?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby GalFisk » Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:34 am

Did she want to throw it away? Was she forced to? Did she throw it away reluctantly? Did she throw it away in order not to admit that she liked it? Does it contain caffeine? Other stimulant? Alcohol? THC?m Chocolate? Can it cause impairment? Does she want to avoid an effect it could have on her if she continued drinking? Do most people drink it because of its taste? Of its effects? Because they're addicted?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:36 pm

Sundowner64

Was it an alcoholic beverage? No. Did other people urge her to try it? No.
Was she in a restaurant or bar? Some sort of restaurant/shop. was she together with other people? Possibly, irr.
Relevant how exactly she throw it away? No. Did she pour it into the sink?
Did she have some other intention with throwing away the stuff than just getting rid of it? No.
Did she mention to anyone that it's better than expected? Not relevantly.
Did she have to pay for it? Yes. Relevant? Not especially.
Did she try different things, this one just being one of them? No.
Any bet or wager involved? No.


trebor2

Is it coffee? This. Tea? A soft drink?
Is she an actor on set, and they have to keep the liquid in her cup at the same level at the beginning of each take for continuity? No, but good WAG.


GalFisk

Did she want to throw it away? Yesish. Was she forced to? Did she throw it away reluctantly? Possibly...it was her decision to get rid of it, but she probably wasn't happy about it. Did she throw it away in order not to admit that she liked it? No.
Does it contain caffeine? Yes. Other stimulant? Alcohol? THC?m Chocolate? Can it cause impairment? No to rest--it's coffee.
Does she want to avoid an effect it could have on her if she continued drinking? Yes.
Do most people drink it because of its taste? Of its effects? Because they're addicted? Debatable, but I'd guess the second. :mrgreen:
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby doriana_ » Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:31 pm

Is this her first time drinking coffee?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Sarisberie » Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:05 pm

Did she want to taste it so she could recognise it if she tasted it again? When she tasted it before, did it cause problems for her? Relevant when she tasted it before, or other circumstances or effects? Was addiction an issue for her, to coffee, to something else? Medical condition relevant? Would this puzzle work if it were some other substance? Was she expecting it to be coffee? Or something else? Did she throw it away because it WASN’T something else?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby trebor2 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:48 pm

Is she trying to give up coffee? Had the thought been going through her mind, "Maybe this isn't as good as I thought it was?", and then she was frustrated when the sip confirmed it was delicious?

Did she own a rival roastery/coffeeshop, and she hoped that this shop produced an inferior product? Did she suspect that this shop had been stealing her coffee and she recognized the product as hers?

I am definitely addicted to coffee, but man is the world of coffee a world of flavours. Absolutely marvellous.
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:36 am

doriana_

Is this her first time drinking coffee? No.


Sarisberie

Did she want to taste it so she could recognise it if she tasted it again? No. When she tasted it before, did it cause problems for her? Yesish, OTRT but possible FA. Relevant when she tasted it before, or other circumstances or effects? Yesish. Was addiction an issue for her, to coffee, to something else? No. Medical condition relevant? I don't know that it's a specific condition, but OTRT. Would this puzzle work if it were some other substance? A couple others would work. Was she expecting it to be coffee? Yes, but... Or something else? In a sense. Did she throw it away because it WASN’T something else? In a sense.

Great q's, sorry for the wishy-washy a's.



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Is she trying to give up coffee? Noish. Had the thought been going through her mind, "Maybe this isn't as good as I thought it was?", and then she was frustrated when the sip confirmed it was delicious? No.

Did she own a rival roastery/coffeeshop, and she hoped that this shop produced an inferior product? No. Did she suspect that this shop had been stealing her coffee and she recognized the product as hers? No, but I like this idea too! Reminds me of my take on the 'albatross' classic puzzle.

I am definitely addicted to coffee, but man is the world of coffee a world of flavours. Absolutely marvellous. Absolutely. I'll say more later, but "she" is me and I don't want to $poi1 anything. =)
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby doriana_ » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:35 am

Is she pregnant?

Is it plain black coffee? Or does it have anything added to it? Relevant? If so, does it contain milk? creamer? sugar? sweetener? syrup?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby GalFisk » Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:41 am

When she ordered it, did she know it contained coffee? Caffeine? Does she want to avoid the stimulant effect of caffeine? The diuretic effect? The relief of abstinence symptoms? Such as a headache? Some effect it doesn't have on most people?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby jondahr » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:30 pm

Had she had coffee many times before? Or just a few? Has she been drinking too much coffee? Has it been a long time since her last cup? Does she have any religious or cultural reasons to avoid coffee?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Sarisberie » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:41 am

Was the coffee relevantly extremely strong >>>>>> extremely weak? Was it masking the taste of something else? If so, was it in the coffee cup, or elsewhere?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:57 pm

doriana_

Is she pregnant?

Is it plain black coffee? Yope. Or does it have anything added to it? Nothing relevant. Relevant? If so, does it contain milk? creamer? sugar? sweetener? syrup?


GalFisk

When she ordered it, did she know it contained coffee? Yes. Caffeine? No. Does she want to avoid the stimulant effect of caffeine? Yes. The diuretic effect? The relief of abstinence symptoms? Such as a headache? Some effect it doesn't have on most people? Possibly, no to rest.


jondahr

Had she had coffee many times before? Presumably. Or just a few? Has she been drinking too much coffee? Has it been a long time since her last cup? Does she have any religious or cultural reasons to avoid coffee? No/irr to rest.


Sarisberie

Was the coffee relevantly extremely strong >>>>>> extremely weak? Not relevantly, but OTRT. Was it masking the taste of something else? No. If so, was it in the coffee cup, or elsewhere?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby doriana_ » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:29 pm

Did she reluctantly order decaf, but received regular coffee? And because it was better than expected, she realised it had to be regular coffee? And then she had to throw it away because she can’t have caffeine?
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Re: [Bardificer] Nighthawks

Postby Bardificer » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:49 pm

doriana

Did she reluctantly order decaf, but received regular coffee? And because it was better than expected, she realised it had to be regular coffee? And then she had to throw it away because she can’t have caffeine? Right on all counts!





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She is someone who cannot handle caffeine later in the day, so she usually avoids coffee or only drinks decaf if it's past the morning. And this typically means avoiding coffee shops like Starbucks; while these businesses go through batches of regular coffee quickly, very few people order decaf, which means the same batch sits in the pot all day and tends to taste old and burnt by the afternoon.

On this particular occasion, though, she just needs a warm beverage to get through the day, so she reluctantly goes into a coffee shop, orders decaf, and takes it to go. When she sips the drink, it tastes freshly brewed and delicious. She concludes that they accidentally gave her caffeinated coffee, and sadly has to toss it.
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