[Doriana] This train has left the station

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[Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:43 pm

My co-worker Izzy (H/A/F) asked me to make a small change, thinking it would make her look more professional. I happily obliged, but in the end, it made me look less professional. What happened?

Again, a true story, so me = Doriana = H/A/F
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:02 pm

Did you change an object? An action? In the end: at the time where it was supposed to make her look more professional? Later? Relevant to whom she wanted to look this way? To whom you ended up looking this way? Was it to the same person? Or group? Colleagues relevant? Bosses? Customers? Competitors? Company owners? The media? The public? Did you look less professional: in general? Compared to her?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:25 pm

Did you change an object? An action? This In the end: at the time where it was supposed to make her look more professional? This Later? Relevant to whom she wanted to look this way? Yes To whom you ended up looking this way? Yes Was it to the same person? Or group? Same group Colleagues relevant? Bosses? Customers? Competitors? Company owners? The media? No to all of these The public? This Did you look less professional: in general? This Compared to her?
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:40 pm

An action: speech? Something you do with your hands? Walking? Vehicles involved? Did it end up making her not look more professional? Did you look like you were bad at something? Misunderstood something? Did something incorrectly? Are you in the same place when this happens? Travel relevant? Are you in public?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:37 am

An action: speech? Yes Something you do with your hands? Walking? Vehicles involved? No to these Did it end up making her not look more professional? No Did you look like you were bad at something? Yes Misunderstood something? No Did something incorrectly? Yes Are you in the same place when this happens? Yes Travel relevant? No Are you in public? DOYD of "public", but I would say yes
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:49 pm

Could you have foreseen the result? Did you say different words? Change your dialect? Tone of voice? Speak more? Speak less? Are you being recorded? Broadcast? Amplified? Are you in a store? Office? Other place of business?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:37 am

Could you have foreseen the result? I don't think so Did you say different words? Yesish Change your dialect? No Tone of voice? No Speak more? Yes Speak less? But also yes - explore Are you being recorded? No Broadcast? No Amplified? Yes Are you in a store? No Office? No Other place of business? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:15 am

Does she also speak? If so, is she also being amplified? Are you on a stage? In front of a crowd? Are you performing? Doing a presentation? Making an announcement? Is her name relevant? Is yours? Are you working the same type of job? Are you working together? Is she your boss, supervisor, or otherwise above you in a hierarchy? Vice versa?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:59 am

Does she also speak? If so, is she also being amplified? Are you on a stage? In front of a crowd? Yes to all Are you performing? Doing a presentation? Making an announcement? No to all, but doing a presentation would work Is her name relevant? Yes Is yours? No Are you working the same type of job? Broadly speaking, yes Are you working together? No, but we work in the same department Is she your boss, supervisor, or otherwise above you in a hierarchy? Vice versa? Neither of us has seniority over the other, largely irrel
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:14 am

Galfisk: did you say her name? Is the pronunciation of her name relevant? Does she have more than one name? Relevant? Did she ask you to say something a certain way?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:09 am

Galfisk: did you say her name? Yes Is the pronunciation of her name relevant? No Does she have more than one name? If you mean something like a double first name or hyphenated last name, no, but explore Relevant? Yes Did she ask you to say something a certain way? Yes
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Postby BalinTheDwarf » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:45 pm

Nickname relevant? Full first name? Preferred name? Middle name? Birth name? Deadname?
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Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:13 pm

Nickname relevant? Full first name? Yes to both Preferred name? Middle name? Birth name? Deadname? No to rest
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby BalinTheDwarf » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:15 pm

Is Izzy her nickname? Her full first name?
If the former, is her full first name something for which "Izzy" might ordinarily be a nickname (e.g. Isabella, Isadora)?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:17 pm

Is Izzy her nickname? This Her full first name?
If the former, is her full first name something for which "Izzy" might ordinarily be a nickname (e.g. Isabella, Isadora)? Yes (I was thinking Isabella, but the exact name is irrel as I'm using fake names for this puzzle anyway)
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:42 am

Did she ask you to use her full first name instead of nickname? Vice versa? Is she mostly known by her nickname? Did the change make it look like you didn't know her name? are any of her names relevantly: written down? Said by anyone else?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:26 pm

Did she ask you to use her full first name instead of nickname? This Vice versa? Is she mostly known by her nickname? Yes Did the change make it look like you didn't know her name? Yes - why? are any of her names relevantly: written down? Said by anyone else? No to both
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:25 pm

Are any other people involved? Does anyone relevantly not know her real name?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:21 pm

Are any other people involved? Only insofar as other people are present Does anyone relevantly not know her real name? Most of the people who were present knew neither her full first name nor her nickname
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:03 pm

Did she want to appear more professional by being addressed by her real name? Did you make a mistake? Did someone else? Does anyone besides you relevantly speak? Is there relevant writing? Is someone's reaction to what you say relevant?
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Postby doriana_ » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:37 pm

Did she want to appear more professional by being addressed by her real name? Yes Did you make a mistake? Yes, explore Did someone else? Does anyone besides you relevantly speak? Is there relevant writing? Is someone's reaction to what you say relevant? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:02 am

Did you not know her real name? Or not know it well enough? Such as how it was spelled? Or pronounced? Or did you only know part of it?
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Postby doriana_ » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:51 am

Did you not know her real name? I did, but... Or not know it well enough? Such as how it was spelled? Or pronounced? Or did you only know part of it? No to these
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Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:17 am

Did you know it but made a mistake? Did someone else relevantly not know it?
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Postby BalinTheDwarf » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:21 pm

Did you give a different first name that could have the same nickname (using earlier examples, Isabella instead of Isadora or something)?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:40 pm

GalFisk
Did you know it but made a mistake? Yes Did someone else relevantly not know it? No

Balin
Did you give a different first name that could have the same nickname (using earlier examples, Isabella instead of Isadora or something)? No

There seems to be a small FA. Keep this question and answer in mind:
Did you [...] Speak more? Yes Speak less? But also yes - explore
The "speak more" part is solved - I used her full first name instead of her nickname. In what sense did I speak less?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:18 am

Did you use her full first name incorrectly? I know people named Louise, some have the e pronounced and other don't, is something like that relevant?
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Postby BitterLemonCurry » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:11 am

Did you once switch back to her nickname out of habit, which confused people?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:23 am

GalFisk
Did you use her full first name incorrectly? No I know people named Louise, some have the e pronounced and other don't, is something like that relevant? No

BLC
Did you once switch back to her nickname out of habit, which confused people? No
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Postby BalinTheDwarf » Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:59 pm

Is her full first name shorter than her nickname?
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Postby doriana_ » Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:00 am

Is her full first name shorter than her nickname? No, same FA
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:06 am

Did the less-speak involve her name? Nickname? Something else? Was speaking less a mistake? Was that what made you look less professional?
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Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:14 am

Did the less-speak involve her name? Yes Nickname? No Something else? No Was speaking less a mistake? Yes Was that what made you look less professional? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:00 am

Did you leave out part of her name? All of her name? Did you leave out her last name in a context where her last name should have been included? Did you momentarily forget her name? almost say her nickname, regroup and say her real name, but that made it look like you had to think before saying her name? Or that you had to read it? Is it relevant what her real name actually is? Or her nickname?
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Re: [Doriana] This train has left the station

Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:15 am

Did you leave out part of her name? Yes, see next answers All of her name? No Did you leave out her last name in a context where her last name should have been included? Yes Did you momentarily forget her name? Yes almost say her nickname, regroup and say her real name, but that made it look like you had to think before saying her name? No, but close Or that you had to read it? Is it relevant what her real name actually is? Or her nickname? No to rest

Well done, GalFisk and Balin, and thanks for playing! It's time for the

********SPOILER********
I hosted a public panel discussion at work. One of the panelists, a co-worker who usually goes by Izzy, asked me to introduce her as "Isabella [Last Name]" as she thought using her full first name would make her look more professional. I'm so used to calling her Izzy that I had to focus really hard on saying "Isabella" instead and then completely blanked on her last name. I got a deer-in-headlights look until she came to my rescue, but luckily the audience just laughed it off and I was a lot less nervous after that.
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