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[Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:10 am
by Admin
A woman asked me a question. I answered 7 X. She said no. I then tried 8 X. She said no. The answer she gave me was 9 Y. (X and Y are symbols for the real words). I had to smile and agree.
What are X and Y and what was the question?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:41 am
by GalFisk
Did you smile because it was humorous? Because it was a better answer than yours? Relevant that it was a woman who asked? A woman: HAF? Me/I=you, Admin? HAM? Relevant in which context she asked the question? Did she ask anyone else the question? If so, at the same time? Is X an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective? Bigger than a breadbox? Is Y an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective? Bigger than a breadbox? Were you answers based on: guesses? Knowledge? Calculations? Estimates? Did the question contain any numbers? A math problem? Was it a trick question?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:54 pm
by Admin
Galfisk,
Did you smile because it was humorous? Because it was a better answer than yours?
YES, YES
Relevant that it was a woman who asked?
NO
A woman: HAF?
YES
Me/I=you, Admin? HAM?
YES
Relevant in which context she asked the question?
SOMEWHAT
Did she ask anyone else the question? If so, at the same time?
NO
Is X an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective?
NOUN
Bigger than a breadbox?
MISLEADING
Is Y an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective?
NOUN
Bigger than a breadbox?
MISLEADING
Were yoru answers based on: guesses? Knowledge? Calculations? Estimates?
YES, YES, NO, YES
Did the question contain any numbers?
YES
A math problem?
NO
Was it a trick question?
YES - VERY GOOD
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:02 am
by trebor2
Is X a person? A place? A thing? Same questions for Y, please?
Did she pose the question specifically to you? To you and one other person? To many people? Did you personally know this woman? If yes, is she a friend? Colleague? Relative? Was she giving a talk/lecture? Were the tables flipped, and she was giving a presentation on lateral thinking, and you were in the audience? Did she approach you after a speech/workshop/etc. that you gave?
Does the trick in the question involve wordplay? A pun? Was the question geared to sound like a math problem? A trivia question?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:50 am
by Admin
Trebor,
Is X a person? A place? A thing? Same questions for Y, please?
NO, NO, YES - SAME FOR Y
Did she pose the question specifically to you?
YES
To you and one other person? To many people? Did you personally know this woman? If yes, is she a friend? Colleague? Relative? Was she giving a talk/lecture?
NO
Were the tables flipped, and she was giving a presentation on lateral thinking, and you were in the audience?
NO
Did she approach you after a speech/workshop/etc. that you gave?
YES - ON LATERAL THINKING
Does the trick in the question involve wordplay? A pun?
YES
Was the question geared to sound like a math problem? A trivia question?
NO, YES
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:29 am
by trebor2
Did you initially interpret the question as having to do with: sports/athletics? History? Science? The arts/literature/entertainment? Geography? Politics? Religion? Mythology?
Did her answer reveal the question to be related to any of the above?
Does it matter that she came up to you at one of your lateral thinking seminars? Would it have worked if she had been a friend and you'd been meeting for coffee? Did her question relate to something you had said? done? at the event? (Other than encourage/teach lateral thinking, I mean.)
The thing that you were thinking of in your answers: is it a household item? Is it bigger than a car? Would it be found in an office? In a school? Is it an item related to work? Leisure? Play/creativity? Is it a celestial body? And was her actual answer any of these?
Was her question a "how many Y" type of question? A "do you have any Y?" type of question?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:57 am
by Admin
Hi Trebor,
Did you initially interpret the question as having to do with: sports/athletics? History? Science? The arts/literature/entertainment? Geography? Politics? Religion? Mythology?
NOT ANY OF THOSE
Did her answer reveal the question to be related to any of the above?
NO
Does it matter that she came up to you at one of your lateral thinking seminars?
A LITTLE AS I HAD ASKED THEM SOME TRICK QUESTIONS.
Would it have worked if she had been a friend and you'd been meeting for coffee?
YES
Did her question relate to something you had said? done? at the event? (Other than encourage/teach lateral thinking, I mean.)
NO
The thing that you were thinking of in your answers: is it a household item?
NO
Is it bigger than a car? Would it be found in an office? In a school? Is it an item related to work? Leisure? Play/creativity? Is it a celestial body? And was her actual answer any of these?
NONE OF THESE BUT X AND Y ARE COMMON WORDS
Was her question a "how many Y" type of question?
YES - ISH
A "do you have any Y?" type of question?
NO
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:12 pm
by trebor2
Is X: a living thing? A tangible thing? Same for Y, please.
The question contained numbers. Were those numbers dates? Did they refer to amounts of X? Amounts of Y? Amounts of something else?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:57 pm
by Admin
Trebor,
Is X: a living thing? A tangible thing? Same for Y, please
NO, NO, NO, NO
The question contained numbers.
NO - IT IMPLICITLY ASKED FOR A NUMBER IN THE ANSWER.
Were those numbers dates?
NO BUT CLOSER
Did they refer to amounts of X? Amounts of Y?
INDIRECTLY YES - BUT AMBIGUOUSLY
Amounts of something else?
NO
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:46 am
by GalFisk
Is time relevant? Is the question related to some well known joke? Such as "how many x does it take to screw in a light bulb"? Are the intangible things related? Is a pun relevant? Homophone? Double meaning?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:22 pm
by Admin
Galfisk,
Is time relevant?
YES
Is the question related to some well known joke? Such as "how many x does it take to screw in a light bulb"?
NO
Are the intangible things related?
NO
Is a pun relevant? Homophone? Double meaning?
YES, YES, YES
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:58 am
by Sundowner64
Are X and Y intangible items? abstract concepts? letters? numbers?
Are X and Y the same type of thing?
Are both X identical? or just the same type of thing?
Is X represented by one word? Is Y? are both words English?
Does the question ask for a number? for a minimum number of something? a maximum number?
Does it contain "how many" (or could be phrased in this way without losing the pun)?
Is the question in English? Is it a correct sentence? Does it contain any of the typical question words, like: How? When? Where? Why? What? Who?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:40 am
by Admin
Sundowner,
Are X and Y intangible items? abstract concepts? letters? numbers?
YES, YESISH, NO, NO
Are X and Y the same type of thing?
IN A HIGH LEVEL GENERIC SENSE YES, BUT NOT DIRECTLY
Are both X identical? or just the same type of thing?
7X AND 8X - X IS THE SAME IN BOTH
Is X represented by one word? Is Y? are both words English?
YES
Does the question ask for a number? for a minimum number of something? a maximum number?
YES, NO, NO
Does it contain "how many" (or could be phrased in this way without losing the pun)?
HOW MANY IS IMPLIED BUT NOT ASKED DIRECTLY.
Is the question in English? Is it a correct sentence?
YES
Does it contain any of the typical question words, like: How? When? Where? Why? What? Who?
YES - WHAT
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:52 pm
by Sundowner64
Are the 7 X seven individual, identical items? the 8 X? the 9 Y?
Are X and Y units of measurement?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:59 pm
by jondahr
Does the number 9 in her answer combine with Y to sound like a different word? Or did she use the word "nine" as a homophone to imply some other word (like the German "nein")?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:42 pm
by trebor2
Does time matter as in: time of day? Time of year? How long something lasts/takes?
Is X a measure of time? Is Y?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:11 am
by Admin
Sundowner,
Are the 7 X seven individual, identical items? the 8 X? the 9 Y?
YES
Are X and Y units of measurement?
YES
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:12 am
by Admin
JONDAR,
Does the number 9 in her answer combine with Y to sound like a different word?
NO
Or did she use the word "nine" as a homophone to imply some other word (like the German "nein")?
NO
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:14 am
by Admin
TREBOR
Does time matter as in: time of day? Time of year? How long something lasts/takes?
NO, NO, YES
Is X a measure of time? Is Y?
NO, YES
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:29 am
by GalFisk
Is Y seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millennia? Relevant that human pregnancies last 9 months? That a week is 7 days? Are humans relevant? Animals? Other living things?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:15 pm
by Admin
Galfisk
Is Y seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millennia?
MONTHS
Relevant that human pregnancies last 9 months?
YES
That a week is 7 days?
NO
Are humans relevant? Animals? Other living things?
YES, NO, NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:56 pm
by jondahr
Rather than a measure of time, is X a measure of length? Mass? Area? Volume?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:35 pm
by Admin
Jondahr,
Rather than a measure of time, is X a measure of length? Mass? Area? Volume?
NO, YES, NO, NO
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:48 pm
by jondahr
Relevant that human babies often weigh around 7 or 8 pounds?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:29 am
by Admin
Jondahr,
Relevant that human babies often weigh around 7 or 8 pounds?
YES
SO WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:36 am
by GalFisk
Is the word "carry" relevant? The concept of carrying? Is there a single word with a relevant double meaning? If so, s verb? Noun? Adjective? Adverb? Is the question about a baby? Babies in general? One specific baby?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:59 am
by Admin
Galfisk,
Is the word "carry" relevant? The concept of carrying?
NO
Is there a single word with a relevant double meaning?
YES
If so, s verb? Noun? Adjective? Adverb?
NOUN
Is the question about a baby? Babies in general? One specific baby?
YES, YES, NO
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:08 pm
by GalFisk
Weight/wait relevant?
Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Posted:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:52 pm
by Admin
Galfisk
* * * SPOILER * * *
Weight/wait relevant?
YES
She asked a question which with phonetics could be written as:
What is the average wate for a new born baby in England in 2024?
I assumed she meant weight so I tried 7 pounds, then 8 pounds.
She said the answer was 9 months - and that is the average wait for a new baby!