[Doriana] Nothing but trouble

[doriana_]

My lacrosse team is part of a larger sports club that has a combined office/weight room/event venue building. The club proudly displays its flag in front of the building. However, recently some members (H/A/mixed) suggested we take down the flag. Why?

[GalFisk]

Is the flag damaged? Ugly? Does it relevantly remind of some other flag? Some other thing? Relevant that some members suggested this? Or could it be just one? Or all? Culture relevant? Politics?

[Sundowner64]

Is the flag visible from the street? is the idea to take it down and put it in a place where it's better visible?
Does it have text in it? letters? words? the name of the club? a logo? pictures? multiple colors? the foundation year?
Are those who suggest to take down the flag members of the club? of the lacrosse team? employees of the club?
Are there other organizations using this building? relevant?
Does the flag occasionally mislead people? do they enter the building because they expect something different to be there?
Did anyone complain about the flag? could it be offensive for someone?
Has the flag relevant similarities with some other flag? with the flag of an opponent team in the league?
Suppose the flag is taken down: relevant what then will happen with it?

[Sarisberie2]

LGBTQ++ relevant?

[doriana_]

GalFisk
Is the flag damaged? No Ugly? Irrel Does it relevantly remind of some other flag? Yes Some other thing? No Relevant that some members suggested this? No Or could it be just one? Or all? Either would work Culture relevant? Politics? No to both

Sundowner
Is the flag visible from the street? No, but explore is the idea to take it down and put it in a place where it's better visible? No
Does it have text in it? letters? words? the name of the club? This a logo? and this pictures? multiple colors? the foundation year? and also this, as the year is part of the club's name
Are those who suggest to take down the flag members of the club? Yes of the lacrosse team? No employees of the club? Unknown
Are there other organizations using this building? No relevant? No
Does the flag occasionally mislead people? Yes do they enter the building because they expect something different to be there? No
Did anyone complain about the flag? No could it be offensive for someone? No
Has the flag relevant similarities with some other flag? Yes with the flag of an opponent team in the league? No
Suppose the flag is taken down: relevant what then will happen with it? No

Sarisberie
LGBTQ++ relevant? No

[GalFisk]

Is it mistaken for another club? Another organization? A national flag? A problematic flag?

[doriana_]

Is it mistaken for another club? Another organization? A national flag? A problematic flag? No to all

[GalFisk]

Is the other flag one for a state? Corporation? Cause? Relevant? Does the way you flag hangs help cause confusion? The place it hangs?

[Sundowner64]

if you say the flag is proudly displayed in front of the building but not visible from the street: Is the building not situated directly at the roadside? is it in a park/forest? at the other end of the sports ground? is the entrance (and thus the flag) on the backside of the building?
Is the logo large and prominent on the flag, but the name of the club small? So people would see the flag but not associate it with the club?
Is the club well-known in your town? is another famous club of your town relevant?
WAG: Covid-19 relevant? Did people think there is a testing or vaccination station in this building?

[doriana_]

GalFisk
Is the other flag one for a state? Corporation? Cause? No to all Relevant? Yes Does the way you flag hangs help cause confusion? The place it hangs? This

Sundowner
if you say the flag is proudly displayed in front of the building but not visible from the street: Is the building not situated directly at the roadside? It is, but see next answers is it in a park/forest? Park is OTRT at the other end of the sports ground? No is the entrance (and thus the flag) on the backside of the building? DOYD of front and back. The entrance is on the side of building that does not face the road
Is the logo large and prominent on the flag, but the name of the club small? No So people would see the flag but not associate it with the club? n/a
Is the club well-known in your town? Irrel is another famous club of your town relevant? No
WAG: Covid-19 relevant? Did people think there is a testing or vaccination station in this building? Good idea but no

[Sundowner64]

Does the flag mislead about the type of building? about the type of organization? about where the entrance is?
Are the people who get misled: members of the club? people working in the building? people not related to the club? visitors? spectators? athletes? members of guest teams? people who are there for the first time?
Do the people who get mislead usually arrive there by car? by public transport? by bicycle? walking?
Is there a sports ground adjacent on the side where the flag is? relevant?

[GalFisk]

Is there anything else relevant in this building? Or near it? If so, outside? In another building? Could the flag make people go to the wrong place? If so, people looking for your place? For another place?

[doriana_]

Sundowner
Does the flag mislead about the type of building? No about the type of organization? Possibly about where the entrance is? No
Are the people who get misled: members of the club? No people working in the building? No people not related to the club? Yes visitors? spectators? athletes? members of guest teams? No to all people who are there for the first time? Possibly
Do the people who get mislead usually arrive there by car? by public transport? by bicycle? walking? Irrel, all are possible
Is there a sports ground adjacent on the side where the flag is? relevant? Irrel

GalFisk
Is there anything else relevant in this building? No Or near it? Yes If so, outside? Yes In another building? No Could the flag make people go to the wrong place? Yes, but probably not in the way you meant If so, people looking for your place? No For another place? No

[GalFisk]

Is the outside thing a park? Stream? Lake? Wilderness? Private property? Road? Path? Could the flag make people get lost? Get in danger? Could it affect children? Adults? Teens?

[doriana_]

Is the outside thing a park? Stream? Lake? This Wilderness? Private property? Road? Path? Could the flag make people get lost? No Get in danger? Yes Could it affect children? Adults? Teens? Yes to all

[GalFisk]

Can it make the lake seem safer than it is? Make it seem suitable for an activity it's not? Seem like something other than a lake? Seem like it has facilities that it doesn't? Such as a pier? Or beach? Or lifeguard?

[doriana_]

Can it make the lake seem safer than it is? Yes Make it seem suitable for an activity it's not? Yes Seem like something other than a lake? Seem like it has facilities that it doesn't? Such as a pier? Or beach? Or lifeguard? No to rest

[Sundowner64]

When the suggestion to take the flag down was made just recently, does it mean in the last few weeks? winter relevant?
Could the flag imply that the lake is safe for skating?

[doriana_]

When the suggestion to take the flag down was made just recently, does it mean in the last few weeks? winter relevant?
Could the flag imply that the lake is safe for skating?
Yes to all!

********SPOILER********
Our sports club has a nice lakefront property where we display our flag - the club's name and logo on a white background - in front of our building. Recently, it was cold enough for the lake to freeze over, but it wasn't yet safe to walk/skate on the ice. Some members suggested we take down our flag because it could be mistaken for a plain white flag from afar, which some people might interprete as a sign that the lake is safe for skating.

Well done, GalFisk and Sundowner!

[GalFisk]

Cool, I didn't know white flags meant safe ice. I don't think that's a thing here.

[doriana_]

I'm not even sure white flags are a thing here. There was a red flag at the other side of the lake to incidate that it's not safe for walking/skating, so maybe people just made the connection in their heads?