[Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

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[Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:40 am

There was a scene in Oppenheimer that left me and many others in the audience confused. But I doubt that ours was a common reaction. What was the scene?

True story. Having seen Oppenheimer might help you here, but it's definitely possible to solve it with no knowledge of the movie.
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:05 pm

Will trying to solve this puzzle spoil the movie? I haven't seen it yet, but I intend to. Is some relevant knowledge of yours relevant? I was recently confused by a video game puzzle because I knew too much astrophysics.
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:24 pm

Will trying to solve this puzzle spoil the movie? No! I haven't seen it yet, but I intend to. Is some relevant knowledge of yours relevant? Yes I was recently confused by a video game puzzle because I knew too much astrophysics.
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby JenBurdoo1 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:33 pm

Does Oppenheimer relevantly walk into a bar?
Is he in the scene? Is an interaction with another character relevant?
Is there something incorrect in the scene? Something that never happened?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:45 pm

Do you know something relevant about: physics? Politics? Language? Oppenheimer? History? Filmmaking? Films? Special effects? The Manhattan Project? Atomic bombs? Is it confusing to all who share this knowledge? Can it be considered an error? Inaccuracy?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:40 am

BLOOPER / correction: My confusion was caused by a combination of two consecutive scenes. Will anwer accordingly.

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Does Oppenheimer relevantly walk into a bar? No
Is he in the scene? He is in the first scene, but not in the second Is an interaction with another character relevant? Yes
Is there something incorrect in the scene? No for the first scene, possibly for the second scene Something that never happened? No

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Do you know something relevant about: physics? Politics? Language? Oppenheimer? History? Filmmaking? Films? Special effects? The Manhattan Project? Atomic bombs? No to all Is it confusing to all who share this knowledge? Yes Can it be considered an error? Inaccuracy? Both, arguably
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:57 pm

Fashion relevant? Vehicles? Other things that looked different back then? Is there an anachronism? Could this happen with a movie set in the 2020s? Did you see the movie with the other confused people? Do you share the confusion because you share a profession? Hobby? Interest?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:37 am

Fashion relevant? Vehicles? Other things that looked different back then? No to all Is there an anachronism? No Could this happen with a movie set in the 2020s? Yes Did you see the movie with the other confused people? Yes Do you share the confusion because you share a profession? Hobby? Interest? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:10 am

Is everyone in the theater confused? Or most people? Relevant where they live? Where the theater is located? Is their age relevant? Gender? Social class? Geography relevant? Place names?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:58 am

Is everyone in the theater confused? Or most people? Not sure, assume many or most Relevant where they live? Yes Where the theater is located? Yes Is their age relevant? Gender? Social class? No to these Geography relevant? Yes Place names? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:17 am

Is there a wrong place name in the movie? Places changing names relevant? Places changing location? Is a place name pronounced incorrectly? Are places with the same name mixed up? Are similar places names mixed up?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:08 am

Is there a wrong place name in the movie? Places changing names relevant? Places changing location? Is a place name pronounced incorrectly? Are places with the same name mixed up? Are similar places names mixed up? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby BalinTheDwarf » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:46 pm

Are any other names besides place names relevant? People's names? People's titles?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:12 pm

Are any other names besides place names relevant? People's names? People's titles? No to both
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:52 pm

Is there one relevant place name? Two? More? Are the relevant name(s): heard? Read? Implied? Is something out of place? Does a place look wrong? Are any places relevantly in the wrong location? Relative to one another? Facing the wrong direction?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:58 pm

Is there one relevant place name? This Two? More? Are the relevant name(s): heard? This Read? Implied? Is something out of place? Does a place look wrong? Yes Are any places relevantly in the wrong location? Relative to one another? Facing the wrong direction? No to these, potential FA
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:26 pm

Is the FA that a place is relevantly seen in the movie? Is the relevant place name spoken? Written? Maps relevant?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:58 pm

Is the FA that a place is relevantly seen in the movie? No; a relevant place is seen in the movie Is the relevant place name spoken? This Written? No Maps relevant? No
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:11 pm

Is the actual place seen? Or is it filmed somewhere else? Is it confusing to people who live there? Work there? Know the place well? Know the place at all? Is the place a city? Town? Street? Building? Outdoor area? Lake? Land mark? Mountain?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:37 pm

Is the actual place seen? No Or is it filmed somewhere else? Yes Is it confusing to people who live there? Work there? Know the place well? Yes to all Know the place at all? Potentially Is the place a city? This Town? Street? Building? Outdoor area? Lake? Land mark? Mountain?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby Sundowner64 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:35 pm

Oppenheimer being in Göttingen relevant? at the university in Göttingen? Did people from Göttingen when watching the film start to think where in Göttingen this scene could have been?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:51 am

Oppenheimer being in Göttingen relevant? Yes at the university in Göttingen? No Did people from Göttingen when watching the film start to think where in Göttingen this scene could have been? No, FA
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:35 pm

Relevant where the place was filmed? Are people from Göttingen confused? People from the place where it was actually filmed?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby BalinTheDwarf » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:22 pm

Does the relevant scene take place in Göttingen? Was it filmed in Göttingen?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:38 pm

GalFisk
Relevant where the place was filmed? Relevantly not in Göttingen Are people from Göttingen confused? Yes People from the place where it was actually filmed? Probably

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Does the relevant scene take place in Göttingen? Keep in mind that two consecutive scenes are relevant. The first one does not take place in Göttingen (but...), and for the second one, hard to answer - explore Was it filmed in Göttingen? No
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby GalFisk » Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:20 am

Does the first one take place (in the narrative) close to Göttingen? On the way to or from Göttingen? In a place where something related to Göttingen is seen?
Is the place for second one ambiguous? Confusing? Obfuscated?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby BitterLemonCurry » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:08 am

Was there a scene that was said to be in Göttingen in-universe, but was obviously filmed somewhere else?
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Re: [Doriana] Oppenheimer walks into a Bar(bie)

Postby doriana_ » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:20 am

GalFisk
Does the first one take place (in the narrative) close to Göttingen? Yes On the way to or from Göttingen? No In a place where something related to Göttingen is seen? No
Is the place for second one ambiguous? Yope Confusing? Yes Obfuscated? No

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Was there a scene that was said to be in Göttingen in-universe unclear, which added to the confusion, but was obviously filmed somewhere else? Yes

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********SPOILER********
In Oppenheimer, there is a scene where someone (Niels Bohr?) suggests that Oppenheimer continue his studies in Göttingen. The next shot is an aerial view of a city that is very clearly not Göttingen. I'm not sure if this is a mistake or if the shot is meant to represent something else, but the juxtaposition of these two scenes left me and the rest of the audience confused when I went to see the movie here in Göttingen.
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