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[Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:10 am

A woman asked me a question. I answered 7 X. She said no. I then tried 8 X. She said no. The answer she gave me was 9 Y. (X and Y are symbols for the real words). I had to smile and agree.
What are X and Y and what was the question?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:41 am

Did you smile because it was humorous? Because it was a better answer than yours? Relevant that it was a woman who asked? A woman: HAF? Me/I=you, Admin? HAM? Relevant in which context she asked the question? Did she ask anyone else the question? If so, at the same time? Is X an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective? Bigger than a breadbox? Is Y an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective? Bigger than a breadbox? Were you answers based on: guesses? Knowledge? Calculations? Estimates? Did the question contain any numbers? A math problem? Was it a trick question?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:54 pm

Galfisk,

Did you smile because it was humorous? Because it was a better answer than yours?
YES, YES

Relevant that it was a woman who asked?
NO

A woman: HAF?
YES

Me/I=you, Admin? HAM?
YES

Relevant in which context she asked the question?
SOMEWHAT

Did she ask anyone else the question? If so, at the same time?
NO

Is X an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective?
NOUN

Bigger than a breadbox?
MISLEADING

Is Y an object? Person? Concept? Verb? Adjective?
NOUN

Bigger than a breadbox?
MISLEADING

Were yoru answers based on: guesses? Knowledge? Calculations? Estimates?
YES, YES, NO, YES

Did the question contain any numbers?
YES

A math problem?
NO

Was it a trick question?
YES - VERY GOOD
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby trebor2 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:02 am

Is X a person? A place? A thing? Same questions for Y, please?

Did she pose the question specifically to you? To you and one other person? To many people? Did you personally know this woman? If yes, is she a friend? Colleague? Relative? Was she giving a talk/lecture? Were the tables flipped, and she was giving a presentation on lateral thinking, and you were in the audience? Did she approach you after a speech/workshop/etc. that you gave?

Does the trick in the question involve wordplay? A pun? Was the question geared to sound like a math problem? A trivia question?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:50 am

Trebor,

Is X a person? A place? A thing? Same questions for Y, please?
NO, NO, YES - SAME FOR Y

Did she pose the question specifically to you?
YES

To you and one other person? To many people? Did you personally know this woman? If yes, is she a friend? Colleague? Relative? Was she giving a talk/lecture?
NO

Were the tables flipped, and she was giving a presentation on lateral thinking, and you were in the audience?
NO

Did she approach you after a speech/workshop/etc. that you gave?
YES - ON LATERAL THINKING

Does the trick in the question involve wordplay? A pun?
YES

Was the question geared to sound like a math problem? A trivia question?
NO, YES
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby trebor2 » Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:29 am

Did you initially interpret the question as having to do with: sports/athletics? History? Science? The arts/literature/entertainment? Geography? Politics? Religion? Mythology?

Did her answer reveal the question to be related to any of the above?

Does it matter that she came up to you at one of your lateral thinking seminars? Would it have worked if she had been a friend and you'd been meeting for coffee? Did her question relate to something you had said? done? at the event? (Other than encourage/teach lateral thinking, I mean.)

The thing that you were thinking of in your answers: is it a household item? Is it bigger than a car? Would it be found in an office? In a school? Is it an item related to work? Leisure? Play/creativity? Is it a celestial body? And was her actual answer any of these?

Was her question a "how many Y" type of question? A "do you have any Y?" type of question?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:57 am

Hi Trebor,

Did you initially interpret the question as having to do with: sports/athletics? History? Science? The arts/literature/entertainment? Geography? Politics? Religion? Mythology?
NOT ANY OF THOSE

Did her answer reveal the question to be related to any of the above?
NO

Does it matter that she came up to you at one of your lateral thinking seminars?
A LITTLE AS I HAD ASKED THEM SOME TRICK QUESTIONS.

Would it have worked if she had been a friend and you'd been meeting for coffee?
YES

Did her question relate to something you had said? done? at the event? (Other than encourage/teach lateral thinking, I mean.)
NO


The thing that you were thinking of in your answers: is it a household item?
NO

Is it bigger than a car? Would it be found in an office? In a school? Is it an item related to work? Leisure? Play/creativity? Is it a celestial body? And was her actual answer any of these?
NONE OF THESE BUT X AND Y ARE COMMON WORDS

Was her question a "how many Y" type of question?
YES - ISH

A "do you have any Y?" type of question?
NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby trebor2 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:12 pm

Is X: a living thing? A tangible thing? Same for Y, please.

The question contained numbers. Were those numbers dates? Did they refer to amounts of X? Amounts of Y? Amounts of something else?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:57 pm

Trebor,

Is X: a living thing? A tangible thing? Same for Y, please
NO, NO, NO, NO

The question contained numbers.
NO - IT IMPLICITLY ASKED FOR A NUMBER IN THE ANSWER.

Were those numbers dates?
NO BUT CLOSER

Did they refer to amounts of X? Amounts of Y?
INDIRECTLY YES - BUT AMBIGUOUSLY

Amounts of something else?
NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:46 am

Is time relevant? Is the question related to some well known joke? Such as "how many x does it take to screw in a light bulb"? Are the intangible things related? Is a pun relevant? Homophone? Double meaning?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:22 pm

Galfisk,

Is time relevant?
YES

Is the question related to some well known joke? Such as "how many x does it take to screw in a light bulb"?
NO

Are the intangible things related?
NO

Is a pun relevant? Homophone? Double meaning?
YES, YES, YES
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:58 am

Are X and Y intangible items? abstract concepts? letters? numbers?
Are X and Y the same type of thing?
Are both X identical? or just the same type of thing?
Is X represented by one word? Is Y? are both words English?
Does the question ask for a number? for a minimum number of something? a maximum number?
Does it contain "how many" (or could be phrased in this way without losing the pun)?
Is the question in English? Is it a correct sentence? Does it contain any of the typical question words, like: How? When? Where? Why? What? Who?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:40 am

Sundowner,

Are X and Y intangible items? abstract concepts? letters? numbers?
YES, YESISH, NO, NO

Are X and Y the same type of thing?
IN A HIGH LEVEL GENERIC SENSE YES, BUT NOT DIRECTLY

Are both X identical? or just the same type of thing?
7X AND 8X - X IS THE SAME IN BOTH

Is X represented by one word? Is Y? are both words English?
YES

Does the question ask for a number? for a minimum number of something? a maximum number?
YES, NO, NO

Does it contain "how many" (or could be phrased in this way without losing the pun)?
HOW MANY IS IMPLIED BUT NOT ASKED DIRECTLY.

Is the question in English? Is it a correct sentence?
YES

Does it contain any of the typical question words, like: How? When? Where? Why? What? Who?
YES - WHAT
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Sundowner64 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:52 pm

Are the 7 X seven individual, identical items? the 8 X? the 9 Y?
Are X and Y units of measurement?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby jondahr » Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:59 pm

Does the number 9 in her answer combine with Y to sound like a different word? Or did she use the word "nine" as a homophone to imply some other word (like the German "nein")?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby trebor2 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:42 pm

Does time matter as in: time of day? Time of year? How long something lasts/takes?

Is X a measure of time? Is Y?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:11 am

Sundowner,

Are the 7 X seven individual, identical items? the 8 X? the 9 Y?
YES

Are X and Y units of measurement?
YES
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:12 am

JONDAR,

Does the number 9 in her answer combine with Y to sound like a different word?
NO

Or did she use the word "nine" as a homophone to imply some other word (like the German "nein")?
NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:14 am

TREBOR

Does time matter as in: time of day? Time of year? How long something lasts/takes?
NO, NO, YES

Is X a measure of time? Is Y?
NO, YES
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:29 am

Is Y seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millennia? Relevant that human pregnancies last 9 months? That a week is 7 days? Are humans relevant? Animals? Other living things?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:15 pm

Galfisk

Is Y seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millennia?
MONTHS

Relevant that human pregnancies last 9 months?
YES

That a week is 7 days?
NO

Are humans relevant? Animals? Other living things?
YES, NO, NO



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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby jondahr » Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:56 pm

Rather than a measure of time, is X a measure of length? Mass? Area? Volume?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:35 pm

Jondahr,

Rather than a measure of time, is X a measure of length? Mass? Area? Volume?
NO, YES, NO, NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby jondahr » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:48 pm

Relevant that human babies often weigh around 7 or 8 pounds?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:29 am

Jondahr,

Relevant that human babies often weigh around 7 or 8 pounds?
YES

SO WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:36 am

Is the word "carry" relevant? The concept of carrying? Is there a single word with a relevant double meaning? If so, s verb? Noun? Adjective? Adverb? Is the question about a baby? Babies in general? One specific baby?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:59 am

Galfisk,

Is the word "carry" relevant? The concept of carrying?
NO

Is there a single word with a relevant double meaning?
YES

If so, s verb? Noun? Adjective? Adverb?
NOUN

Is the question about a baby? Babies in general? One specific baby?
YES, YES, NO
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:08 pm

Weight/wait relevant?
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Re: [Admin] 7 or 9

Postby Admin » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:52 pm

Galfisk

* * * SPOILER * * *

Weight/wait relevant?
YES

She asked a question which with phonetics could be written as:

What is the average wate for a new born baby in England in 2024?

I assumed she meant weight so I tried 7 pounds, then 8 pounds.

She said the answer was 9 months - and that is the average wait for a new baby!
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