[Admin] The Unhappy Diner

[Admin]

He was amazed when he heard the waitress tell him to leave.

[Mother Gothel]

Was he at a place where you can eat? Was he human? Was the waitress human? His age relevant? Did he know the waitress before the encounter when she told him to leave?

[Admin]

Hi Mother,

Was he at a place where you can eat? Was he human? Was the waitress human?
YES

His age relevant?
NO

Did he know the waitress before the encounter when she told him to leave?
NO

[Mother Gothel]

Was it a place intended primarily for eating? If you say 'waitress', she is female, right? Is the gender of the waitress actually relevant, or could it as well have been a male waiter?

[BitterLemonCurry]

Was the man a patron of the place? Or staff?
Was he asked to leave right after he arrived? After he ordered? While he was eating? After he finished?
Did being told to leave mean a free Dinner?

[Admin]

Mother,

Was it a place intended primarily for eating?
YES

If you say 'waitress', she is female, right?
YES

Is the gender of the waitress actually relevant,
NO

or could it as well have been a male waiter?
YES

[Admin]

BITTER,

Was the man a patron of the place? Or staff?
YES, NO

Was he asked to leave right after he arrived?
NO

After he ordered?
YES

While he was eating? After he finished?
NO

Did being told to leave mean a free Dinner?
NO

[Mother Gothel]

If he was a patron, then it is a public place, right?

[BitterLemonCurry]

To clarify, "amazed" here means "positively surprised"?

Was he genuinely planning to eat at this place? Or drink?
When the waitress asked him to leave, had it something to do with the order? Relevant what he ordered? Did he order something that was unavailable at this place? Was he misbehaving?
Had she recognized the man?
When the waitress asked the man to leave, was she following the owner's request? Had someone complained about him? relevant?

[Admin]

Mother,

If he was a patron, then it is a public place, right?
CORRECT

[Admin]

BITTER,

To clarify, "amazed" here means "positively surprised"?
YES

Was he genuinely planning to eat at this place? Or drink?
YES

When the waitress asked him to leave, had it something to do with the order? Relevant what he ordered?
YES, YES

Did he order something that was unavailable at this place?
YES

Was he misbehaving?
NO

Had she recognized the man?
NO

When the waitress asked the man to leave, was she following the owner's request? Had someone complained about him? relevant?
NO TO THOSE

[BitterLemonCurry]

Was the relevant item he ordered: food? Drink?
Was it generally unavailable at this place? Was it out of stock?
Was it something illegal?

Was he told to go to a specific different Restaurant?

[Admin]

Bitter,

Was the relevant item he ordered: food? Drink?
YES, NO

Was it generally unavailable at this place? Was it out of stock?
YES

Was it something illegal?
NO

Was he told to go to a specific different Restaurant?
NO

[Mother Gothel]

Was it an eating place on its own? Or was it part of another place (e.g. a restaurant in a hotel)?

[Admin]

Mother,

Was it an eating place on its own? Or was it part of another place (e.g. a restaurant in a hotel)?

Irrelevant. Could be either.

[BitterLemonCurry]

Was it generally unavailable at this place? Was it out of stock?
YES

This is one answer for two questions, maybe I'll rephrase the question(s):
Was the ordered item unavailable only at the moment?
Or was it generally not served at this restaurant?

Was the ordered item a specialty of the city or region?

Was the man a local? a tourist? a restaurant tester? travelling for business?

Was the man mistaken on something?

[Mother Gothel]

Relevant what kind of eating place it was? A restaurant? A bar? A cafe? A diner? Any other type of place? Can we give the characters names?

[Admin]

This is one answer for two questions, maybe I'll rephrase the question(s):
Was the ordered item unavailable only at the moment?
Irrelevant

Or was it generally not served at this restaurant?
IRRELEVANT

Was the ordered item a specialty of the city or region?
No


Was the man a local? a tourist? a restaurant tester? travelling for business?
Does not matter

Was the man mistaken on something
Yes

[Admin]

Mother,

A restaurant.

Sure, Harry and Meghan.

[Mother Gothel]

Did Meghan know Harry before this encounter? Was Harry at the restaurant alone? Was he accompanied by one person? By more than one person? Did Harry look like a specific other person? Is the continent where the story happens relevant? Country relevant? Did Harry order something else besides the unavailable dish?

[BitterLemonCurry]

Had Harry suffered from a hearing loss before, so he was amazed to hear anything?

Do we need to know more about the Restaurant? Harry? Meghan? The particular dish? The Time of day? Season?


Is any difference in languages spoken relevant?

[Admin]

Mother,

Did Meghan know Harry before this encounter?
No

Was Harry at the restaurant alone?
Yes
Was he accompanied by one person? By more than one person?
No

Did Harry look like a specific other person?
No

Is the continent where the story happens relevant?

Country relevant?
Uk say

Did Harry order something else besides the unavailable dish?
Yes but not relevant

[Admin]

Bitter,

Had Harry suffered from a hearing loss before, so he was amazed to hear anything?
No

Do we need to know more about the Restaurant? Harry? Meghan?
No

The particular dish?
Yes

The Time of day? Season?
No

[Admin]

Bitter,

Is any difference in languages spoken relevant?
Yes

[Mother Gothel]

Did Meghan speak a different language than Harry? Did one of them speak English? Was one of them an English native speaker? Did Meghan think that Harry looks like s.o. she knows?

[BitterLemonCurry]

Did Harry leave the restaurant without eating in the end? Did Meghan really mean to ask Harry to leave?

Is there a dish named "Please leave this place" or something like that in another language?

Is the joke "Could you recommend something?" - "Yes, a different restaurant!" relevant?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Did he mispronounce the item from the menu?

"Quiche"/"quickie" joke?

[Admin]

Mother,

Did Meghan speak a different language than Harry?
NO

Did one of them speak English?
YES - BOTH

Was one of them an English native speaker?
YES

Did Meghan think that Harry looks like s.o. she knows?
NO

[Admin]

BITTER,

Did Harry leave the restaurant without eating in the end? Did Meghan really mean to ask Harry to leave?
NO, NO

Is there a dish named "Please leave this place" or something like that in another language?
NO

Is the joke "Could you recommend something?" - "Yes, a different restaurant!" relevant?
NO

[Admin]

BALIN,

Did he mispronounce the item from the menu?
NO BUT GETTING WARMER

"Quiche"/"quickie" joke?
NO

[trebor2]

Is Harry's first language English? Is Meg's?

Are regional dialects relevant? Or simply regionalisms? Is one of them making a pun? If so, is it Meg?

Is it relevant that "leaves" can also mean salad greens?

Did Harry ask for bamboo shoots?

[BitterLemonCurry]

Was the ordered dish in question: Meat? Fish? Pasta? Potatoes? Soup? Salad? Vegetables? Dessert?

[Admin]

Trebor,

Is Harry's first language English? Is Meg's?
YES

Are regional dialects relevant? Or simply regionalisms?
NO

Is one of them making a pun?
CLOSE BUT NOT EXACTLY

If so, is it Meg?
YES

Is it relevant that "leaves" can also mean salad greens?
NO

Did Harry ask for bamboo shoots?
NO

[Admin]

BITTER,

Was the ordered dish in question: Meat? Fish? Pasta? Potatoes? Soup? Salad? Vegetables? Dessert?
VEGETABLE

[BitterLemonCurry]

Are homophones relevant? Peas/Peace?

[Admin]

Bitter,

Are homophones relevant? Peas/Peace?
NO

[Mother Gothel]

Is it relevant which vegetable exactly Harry ordered? Could this also have happened in another English-speaking country? Is the vegetable in question commonly considered a vegetable, i.e. everyone knows that this is a vegetable? Was he amazed because the joke was funny? Because he considered it funny? Because he liked it? Did he get this vegetable in the end?

[Admin]

Mother,

Is it relevant which vegetable exactly Harry ordered?
YES

Could this also have happened in another English-speaking country?
I THINK SO

Is the vegetable in question commonly considered a vegetable, i.e. everyone knows that this is a vegetable?
YES

Was he amazed because the joke was funny?
NO - NO JOKE INVOLVED.

Because he considered it funny?
NO

Because he liked it?
NO

Did he get this vegetable in the end?
NO

[BitterLemonCurry]

So, what we have is:

1. Harry ordered a particular vegetable
2. Meghan told Harry that this vegetable is not available
3. Meghan said something that could be interpreted as "please leave this restaurant".

So, are 2. and 3. the same sentence? Or different sentences?
Did Harry say something relevant besides ordering the vegetable?

[Admin]

Bitter,

So, what we have is:
1. Harry ordered a particular vegetable
2. Meghan told Harry that this vegetable is not available
3. Meghan said something that could be interpreted as "please leave this restaurant".

EXACTLY

So, are 2. and 3. the same sentence? Or different sentences?
SAME

Did Harry say something relevant besides ordering the vegetable?
NO

[BitterLemonCurry]

So both were speaking English?
But a different language is also relevant?
Could Meghan saying something along "We don't have this vegetable" be interpreted as "Please leave" in a foreign language?
Are speech impediments or unusual pronunciations relevant?

[BalinTheDwarf]

"Mange tout" -> "Man, get out"?

Something like "do you have any 'man get out'?" "No, I don't have any, man, get out."?

[Admin]

Balin and Bitter and Mother,

Balin got it.

* * * SPOILER * * *

The man asked the waitress for snap peas. She did not know what they were so she asked the cook. He had laryngitis so he wrote down, We do not have any mange tout.

His writing was bad so she read it out as

We do not have any man. Get out!

[BitterLemonCurry]

You still learn something on this Forum. I‘ve never heard of a vegetable named mangetout, even if this name is also used in German (less common, but still). Thank you for this Puzzle.

[Admin]

It is called mange tout because you eat all of the pea and shell.