[WiZ] Untitled (Track 11)

[WiZ]

A song is recorded. People love the song and a lot of interested people listen. However, the song is incomplete and includes many awkward silences. But no attempt is ever made to finish the song. Why not?

True story. Caveat earlispoilor. OAATP rulz, ok

[LemonCurry]

Are listeners supposed to sing during the silences?

[GalFisk]

Are the silences intentional?

[WiZ]

LemonCurry

Are listeners supposed to sing during the silences? the intention is not for the people listening to sing during the silences

GalFisk

Are the silences intentional? yope

[trebor]

Did one of the song’s writers die before the song was finished?

[WiZ]

Did one of the song’s writers die before the song was finished? yes, FAs lurking

[Doriana]

Does someone die while the song is being recorded?

[Sundowner]

Was there only one song writer?
Was the song ever finished?
Did the song writer die long before this recording of the song? (decades, centuries before?)
Was it the first time the song was recorded?
Yopeishly intentional silence = also because no one was able or wanted to complete the missing parts?
Silence = no singing? no music?
Were parts that have been there before omitted during the recording of the song?

[peter365]

I'm guessing i'm one of the few to understand the puzzle title

Is the song an amalgamation of other songs?

[trebor]

In case Sundowner's post doesn't get fully answered due to OAATP, was the song ever finished?

[WiZ]

Doriana

Does someone die while the song is being recorded? no

Sundowner

Was there only one song writer? yes

Rest of questions ignored as per OAATP rules - I admittedly didn't make these as clear as I could have, so I will waive the usual probation penalty

Peter

I'm guessing i'm one of the few to understand the puzzle title I had to do a bit of Google Fu to find its official name - I just remember looking at my CD of Green and seeing the number 11 with nothing after it

Is the song an amalgamation of other songs? no

Trebor

In case Sundowner's post doesn't get fully answered due to OAATP, was the song ever finished? no

[trebor]

Is it left alone and appreciated that way just because it was the songwriter's last song?

[WiZ]

Is it left alone and appreciated that way just because it was the songwriter's last song? no

[LemonCurry]

Were the silences included in order to protest/make aware of something?

[Sundowner]

Silence = no singing? no music?

[Mimino]

Was the song writer also the singer who would have performed the song had he been still alive?
(By the way: were you with the puzzle title inspired by the title of another puzzle here in this forum?)

[WiZ]

LemonCurry

Were the silences included in order to protest/make aware of something? no

SunDowner

Silence = no singing? no music? correct to both

Mimino

Was the song writer also the singer who would have performed the song had he been still alive? yes

(By the way: were you with the puzzle title inspired by the title of another puzzle here in this forum?) Indeed it was - but there is a tradition of using REM songs as puzzle titles that dates back to the previous forum. Peter, Balin and I are repeat offenders.

[Mimino]

Did the song writer die while in the process of writing the song? or did he start writing on it a long while ago, then abandoned it and did not pick up again until his death?

[LemonCurry]

Are any diseases / disabilities / impediments relevant?

[WiZ]

Mimino

Did the song writer die while in the process of writing the song? no or did he start writing on it a long while ago, then abandoned it and did not pick up again until his death? no

LemonCurry

Are any diseases / disabilities / impediments relevant? no

[Mimino]

Was it a solo singer? male? female?

[WiZ]

Was it a solo singer? yes male? yes female? no

[peter365]

Has an event rendered the song outdated or meaningless?

[Sundowner]

Was there any singing in the recording of the song? if so: by the song writer?

[WiZ]

Peter

Has an event yes rendered the song outdated or meaningless? strong yope to both

Sundowner

Was there any singing in the recording of the song? if so: by the song writer? yes to both

[trebor]

Had the artist intended to finish the song?

[WiZ]

Had the artist intended to finish the song? yes

[LemonCurry]

Was the existing part of the song written in one go? or in stages?

[WiZ]

Was the existing part of the song written in one go? yes or in stages? no

I think I have fallen victim to the OAATP equivalent of the quickie paradox. The OAATP rules have now been lifted.

[LemonCurry]

Did the songwriter intend to fill in the missing parts also in one go?
Did the songwriter intend that the the missing parts be sung by a specific person? Who became permanently unavailable at some point?

[WiZ]

Did the songwriter intend to fill in the missing parts also in one go? not by themselves, no
Did the songwriter intend that the the missing parts be sung by a specific person? yope! Who became permanently unavailable at some point? but yes, this is key

[trebor]

I'm confused. I got a "yes, FA lurking" when I asked whether one of the song's writers died before completing the song. Later we figured out that there was only one songwriter, which I assume was the FA. Which would imply to me that that songwriter died. But we got a no when we asked if that's what happened.

Did the singer die? Or was it a duet, and one of the singers died? Is the death the relevant event we keep skirting around? If not, is it a political event? Cultural event? The invention of something? The composition of another piece of music? Another work of art? Is the audience supposed to do something percussive in this part, without instrumentation from the musicians? (Perhaps the stomp-stomp-clap on "We Will Rock You"?)

[WiZ]

I'm confused. I got a "yes, FA lurking" when I asked whether one of the song's writers died before completing the song. Later we figured out that there was only one songwriter, which I assume was the FA. Which would imply to me that that songwriter died. But we got a no when we asked if that's what happened.

Apologies for any confusion - there is definite nuance here, and I'm trying to walk the line between not giving too much away and not giving misleading answers. Hopefully, your next round will iron some of this out.

Did the singer die? yes, but this in itself was not the reason the song was never completed Or was it a duet, and one of the singers died? Yes, very good Is the death the relevant event we keep skirting around? yes If not, is it a political event? Cultural event? The invention of something? The composition of another piece of music? Another work of art? no to these Is the audience supposed to do something percussive in this part no, without instrumentation from the musicians? (Perhaps the stomp-stomp-clap on "We Will Rock You"?)

So, I hope that makes things clearer. But why not replace the intended duettist with someone else? And why record one part (and leave it indefinitely for people to listen to) if the duettist is dead?

[Sundowner]

Was the plan to record both parts of the duet separately and mix them together later? because the singers lived in different places?
Was it hard to find someone else who could take over the part of the deceased singer?

[WiZ]

Was the plan to record both parts of the duet separately and mix them together later? no because the singers lived in different places? no - the intended duettists would have sung in the same place
Was it hard to find someone else who could take over the part of the deceased singer? extremely

[Mimino]

Did the surviving singer, nevertheless, want to record the song? so they decided finally to do it while omitting/skipping the other singer's part?
Was it a last wish of the deceased singer that the song is recorded?
Is the cause of death of the singer relevant? did he know that he is going to die when he was writing the song?

[WiZ]

Did the surviving singer, nevertheless, want to record the song? no so they decided finally to do it while omitting/skipping the other singer's part? n/a
Was it a last wish of the deceased singer that the song is recorded? no
Is the cause of death of the singer relevant? yes did he know that he is going to die when he was writing the song? no

[trebor]

Was the dead duettist a HAM? Did they sing a style that was contrary to most singers? Such as opera? Were they insanely accomplished?

[WiZ]

Was the dead duettist a H no! A yes M? no!

Heh heh heh.

Did they sing a style that was contrary to most singers? I think 'yes' is a fair answer Such as opera? no Were they insanely accomplished? Assume no, although this is difficult to verify

[Doriana]

Was the dead duettist an animal? a machine? an AI?

[WiZ]

Was the dead duettist an animal? this a machine? an AI? no to both

[Sundowner]

I'm somewhat lost now. A while ago we said the deceased was a male human solo singer and also the writer of the song. Now it's a female animal and duettist and most likely did also not write the song.

Was the song ever written by someone? by a human? is the song writer still alive? is the song writer one of the intended duettists?
Is the other duettist (i.e. not the deceased animal) still alive? is he/she human?

WAG: Was it a recording of whales singing?

[WiZ]

I'm somewhat lost now. A while ago we said the deceased was a male human solo singer and also the writer of the song. Now it's a female animal and duettist and most likely did also not write the song.

Clarification: The recording is of a male solo singer, whose humanity was never discussed or questioned. They are the writer of the song (such as it is, as per the recording), inasmuch as it is their own composition and nobody else's. The female animal duettist had no part in writing the song, such as it is.

Was the song ever written by someone? yes by a human? no is the song writer still alive? the writer of part of the song that exists and has been recorded is not relevantly alive or dead (likely dead by now) is the song writer one of the intended duettists? yes
Is the other duettist (i.e. not the deceased animal) still alive? very much not is he/she human? no

WAG: Was it a recording of whales singing? Close. It is a recording of an animal singing to another animal, but not whales.

[Mimino]

Were both animals of the same species? Male and female? Did the male court for the female?

[WiZ]

Were both animals of the same species? yes Male and female? yes Did the male court for the female? and yes

[Mimino]

Were the animals birds? mammals?
Was the dead part of the duet ever alive? or was it a dummy, decoy, fake, stuffed animal, something the like?

[WiZ]

Were the animals birds? yes mammals? no
Was the dead part of the duet ever alive? yes or was it a dummy, decoy, fake, stuffed animal, something the like? no

[trebor]

Is the remaining (living) vocalist a human?

[WiZ]

Is the remaining (living) vocalist a human? no

[Mimino]

Was the singing of the male bird recorded? Was the female bird already dead at this moment? Were those who recorded the singing aware of that? was the male bord aware?
Did the moments of silence come from the male bird waiting for the female's response?
Did he increase his efforts because no response was coming?
Relevant which species of bird?

[WiZ]

Was the singing of the male bird recorded? yes Was the female bird already dead at this moment? yes!Were those who recorded the singing aware of that? yes was the male bord aware? no!
Did the moments of silence come from the male bird waiting for the female's response? yes
Did he increase his efforts because no response was coming? yes
Relevant which species of bird? no

***** SPOILER *****

The song was a recording of the last Kaua’i Oo bird singing before it went extinct. It was a mating call sung by a male bird. The song has breaks for the female bird to respond. There’s no response because the male Kaua’i Oo is the last of its kind.

This is the recording

Congratulations, Mimino, on the solution, and thank you all for playing.