[Balin] The devil's own invention

[BalinTheDwarf]

Farrah's mother could have been hyperbolically described as a common trope from fiction. But Farrah's actions one day turned that description from figurative to literal. How?

Farrah = H/C/F; her mother = H/A/F

[doriana_]

Is the common trope related to someone's appearance? character traits? backstory?

[GalFisk]

Did Farrah intend for this to happen?Did the mother intend to, before the actions of Farrah, resemble this trope? Is she being a good parent to Farrah? Bad? both? Neither? Are other people involved? Any animals? Any relevant objects? Is the mother's profession relevant? The age of Farrah?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Is the common trope related to someone's appearance? character traits? backstory? None of these

Did Farrah intend for this to happen? No Did the mother intend to, before the actions of Farrah, resemble this trope? Yes, figuratively Is she being a good parent to Farrah? Bad? The trope is considered bad (though not necessarily "bad parenting"); the rest of her parenting is irrel both? Neither? Are other people involved? No Any animals? No Any relevant objects? Yes Is the mother's profession relevant? No The age of Farrah? No

[doriana_]

Is the mother present when Farrah performs the relevant actions?
Do her actions create something? destroy something? alter something?
Relevant where Farrah performs the actions? If so, at home? at school? in a vehicle? outdoors? indoors?
Does she perform them on a relevant day, such as a birthday? a holiday?
Are the relevant objects food? drink? toys? household items? electronics? tools? clothes?

Is the trope related to how someone interacts with others? someone's role in a friend group or family? a character transformation?

[trebor2]

Is the trope common in a specific genre? If so: horror? Thriller? Suspense? Drama? Comedy? Rom-com? Coming-of-age? Action/adventure?

Is the trope related to doing something stupid? Being an over-tired parent? Romantic relations? Being a single parent? Being the bad cop in a good cop/bad cop parenting duo?

Is the title relevant? Is it relevant that necessity is said to be the mother of invention?

[GalFisk]

Is there one relevant object? Two? More? If more than one: more of he same type? Different types? Is the object owned by the kid? The mother? Both? Someone else? Is it a toy? Vehicle? Toy vehicle? Is money relevant? Is their socioeconomic status relevant?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Is the mother present when Farrah performs the relevant actions? No
Do her actions create something? destroy something? This alter something?
Relevant where Farrah performs the actions? Yes If so, at home? This at school? in a vehicle? outdoors? indoors?
Does she perform them on a relevant day No such as a birthday? a holiday?
Are the relevant objects food? One of them is, No to rest drink? toys? household items? electronics? tools? clothes?

Is the trope related to how someone interacts with others? No someone's role in a friend group or family? Yope to "family" a character transformation? No

Is the trope common in a specific genre? I'd say it's most commonly seen in... If so: horror? Thriller? Suspense? Drama? Comedy? ...family comedies, but not exclusively so Rom-com? Coming-of-age? Action/adventure?

Is the trope related to doing something stupid? Yope, No to restBeing an over-tired parent? Romantic relations? Being a single parent? Being the bad cop in a good cop/bad cop parenting duo?

Is the title relevant? It provides a lateral hint Is it relevant that necessity is said to be the mother of invention? No

Is there one relevant object? Two? There is one relevant food (as discovered above) and one other relevant... More? If more than one: more of the same type? ...group of things of the same type Different types?
Is the object owned by the kid? The mother? This, for the group of things Both? This, in a sense, for the food Someone else?
Is it a toy? Vehicle? Toy vehicle? Is money relevant? Is their socioeconomic status relevant? No to these

[doriana_]

Do Farrah's actions destroy the food? destroy the group of other things?
Do the other things relevantly have material value? emotional value?
Are the other things letters? books? pieces of jewelry? make-up items? collectibles? photos? other keepsakes?
Relevant where her mom is while Farrah performs the actions?
Did the mom tell Farrah to perform the actions? If so, did Farrah misunderstand what she was supposed to do?

[trebor2]

Are the other objects related to food? Like plates? Utensils? Cups/glasses? Pots? Pans? Stuff used in the kitchen?

Does it matter what the food is?

Was the food in? on? the other group of objects?

Are any people outside of Farrah and her mom relevant? If so, another parent? Sibling? Farrah's friend? An aunt? Uncle? A step-parent? Babysitter? Some nemesis of Farrah's? The mom's evil boss?

Any pets relevant? Other animals?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Do Farrah's actions destroy the food? Yes destroy the group of other things? Yes
Do the other things relevantly have material value? No emotional value? In some households Yes, irrel in this one
Are the other things letters? books? pieces of jewelry? make-up items? collectibles? photos? other keepsakes? None of these
Relevant where her mom is while Farrah performs the actions? No
Did the mom tell Farrah to perform the actions? No If so, did Farrah misunderstand what she was supposed to do?

Are the other objects related to food? No Like plates? Utensils? Cups/glasses? Pots? Pans? Stuff used in the kitchen?

Does it matter what the food is? No. It was fried eggplant

Was the food in? on? the other group of objects? Neither

Are any people outside of Farrah and her mom relevant? No If so, another parent? Sibling? Farrah's friend? An aunt? Uncle? A step-parent? Babysitter? Some nemesis of Farrah's? The mom's evil boss?

Any pets relevant? Other animals? No to both

[doriana_]

Are the other things smaller than a thimble? a tennis ball? a breadbox? a table?
Are the other things furniture? plants? sports equipment? home decor items?

Did Farrah's actions involve preparing food? reheating food? taking food out of the fridge/freezer? ordering food? eating food? throwing food away?

Does the trope only apply to mothers? to parents of any gender? to women, regardless of whether they are mothers?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Are the other things smaller than a thimble? a tennis ball? Thimble-to-tennis ball size range a breadbox? a table?
Are the other things furniture? plants? This sports equipment? home decor items?

Did Farrah's actions involve preparing food? reheating food? taking food out of the fridge/freezer? ordering food? eating food? This throwing food away? And this-ish

Does the trope only apply to mothers? to parents of any gender? Not exclusively, but it is most commonly applied to parents of any gender to women, regardless of whether they are mothers?

[doriana_]

Relevant what kind of plants they are?

Did Farrah dispose of the food in the flower pots? use the food as fertilizer?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Relevant what kind of plants they are? The category of plant, Yes, but nothing more specific than that

Did Farrah dispose of the food in the flower pots? Yes, but not pots use the food as fertilizer? Yope?

[doriana_]

Were the plants in vases? flower beds?
Were they cut flowers? flowers that are still growing? herbs? succulents? cacti? leafy plants?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Were the plants in vases? flower beds? This
Were they cut flowers? flowers that are still growing? This herbs? succulents? cacti? leafy plants?

[GalFisk]

So she put some fried eggplant in a flower bed instead of eating it, correct? Did she not want to eat it? Did she not enjoy it? Did she want the flowers to have it? The earth? Earthworms? Did she want another human to have it? No one? Did she want to hide the fact that she didn't eat it from her mother?

[doriana_]

Is putting the food in the flower beds the only relevant action Farrah performs?
Does putting the food there have relevant consequences other than destroying the flowers? Does it attract vermin?

[BalinTheDwarf]

So she put some fried eggplant in a flower bed instead of eating it, correct? Yes Did she not want to eat it? Yes Did she not enjoy it? Yes Did she want the flowers to have it? The earth? Earthworms? Did she want another human to have it? No one? This Did she want to hide the fact that she didn't eat it from her mother? Yes

Is putting the food in the flower beds the only relevant action Farrah performs? Yes
Does putting the food there have relevant consequences other than destroying the flowers? No Does it attract vermin? Irrel

[GalFisk]

Was the mother bad at cooking? Did the saying refer to food as fertilizer?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Was the mother bad at cooking? Yes Did the saying refer to food as fertilizer? No

[trebor2]

Does Farrah's mom find out that Farrah disposed of the eggplant there? Does she later go do some gardening and uncover it? Does she do anything after Farrah gets rid of the eggplant? Besides making something unpalatable, are any of the mom's actions relevant? Does she say anything relevant?

Does an animal sniff out the eggplant and tear up the bed?

[doriana_]

Is the trope related to cooking? bad cooking?

[Sundowner64]

Did the flowers die from the eggplant pieces? did the eggplant pieces have some other unpleasant effects in the flower bed? (like: attract slugs?)
Anything along the line "when eggplants are bad for the flowers, how can they be good for humans"?
Were the flowers actually (decorative) eggplant?
Did the mother eventually find out that Farrah put the eggplant pieces into the flower bed? did she see Farrah doing it?`were the eggplant pieces still visible on the surface? did the mother dig them out? someone else?
Did the mother respond in any way to having found out about Farrah's actions? did she talk to Farrah? punish her? pardon her? pretend not to have seen anything? stop cooking eggplant?
Is the saying "love is the devil's own invention" relevant? Could the mother's reaction somehow be generalized under "loving" or "caring"? or does she at least see it this way?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Does Farrah's mom find out that Farrah disposed of the eggplant there? Does she later go do some gardening and uncover it? Does she do anything after Farrah gets rid of the eggplant? Besides making something unpalatable, are any of the mom's actions relevant? Does she say anything relevant? No to all

Does an animal sniff out the eggplant and tear up the bed? No

Is the trope related to cooking? bad cooking? Yes to both

Did the flowers die from the eggplant pieces? Yes did the eggplant pieces have some other unpleasant effects in the flower bed? (like: attract slugs?)
Anything along the line "when eggplants are bad for the flowers, how can they be good for humans"? No
Were the flowers actually (decorative) eggplant? N[o/b]
Did the mother eventually find out that Farrah put the eggplant pieces into the flower bed? did she see Farrah doing it?`were the eggplant pieces still visible on the surface? did the mother dig them out? someone else? [b]No to these
Did the mother respond in any way to having found out about Farrah's actions? No; assume she never found out did she talk to Farrah? punish her? pardon her? pretend not to have seen anything? stop cooking eggplant?
Is the saying "love is the devil's own invention" relevant? No Could the mother's reaction somehow be generalized under "loving" or "caring"? She has no relevant reaction or does she at least see it this way?

[doriana_]

Is the trope something like "Her cooking is lethally bad"? And because the flowers died, this is now literally true?

[BalinTheDwarf]

Is the trope something like "Her cooking is lethally bad"? And because the flowers died, this is now literally true? Yes.

****SPOILER****

Farrah's mother is a terrible cook, or in trope terms, a lethal chef. After one particularly bad preparation of eggplant, Farrah buried it in the flower bed in front of the house and all the flowers died, making the dish literally lethal.