[Doriana] A quarter for your thoughts

[doriana_]

In response to what my friend Gemma (H/A/F) told me, I half-jokingly said "Well, shouldn't he get 25 % off then?". What did Gemma tell me?

Based on what could have been a true story if I had actually thought of this reply in the moment

[Sundowner64]

Is "he" a relative/friend/co-worker of Gemma? a person you both know?
"25% off" as in having to pay 25% less? getting 25% of something for free?
Did he buy some item? a service? a ticket? did he rent something?

[doriana_]

Is "he" a relative/friend/co-worker of Gemma? Noish/no/no a person you both know? Gemma knows him, I don't
"25% off" as in having to pay 25% less? This getting 25% of something for free?
Did he buy some item? a service? A service is relevant, but he didn't buy it a ticket? did he rent something?

[GalFisk]

Did he get it for free? Sell it? Did he only get 75% of something? 3-legged animals relevant?

[Sarisberie]

Was payment made, offered, implied, promised, if so by whom to whom? Was it measured in time, quantity, other? Did the transaction take place?

[doriana_]

GalFisk
Did he get it for free? Sell it? Did he only get 75% of something? No to all 3-legged animals relevant? Good idea, but also no

Sarisberie
Was payment made, offered, implied, promised, if so by whom to whom? "implied" is closest; by a H/A/M (not the "he" referenced in the puzzle statement) to a to-be-discovered entity Was it measured in time, quantity, other? Time Did the transaction take place? Not at the time of the puzzle statement, but it will take place in the future

[GalFisk]

Is Gemma involved in the story? Are there two HAMs? One who's "he"? And one who's going to pay something? Is the undiscovered entity a business? Bank? Person? Organization? Is "it" a product? A service? An object? A substance? Something that the transaction in question is paying for? Taxes relevant? Taxis? Animals involved at all? Will "he" only be able to use 3/4 of "it"?

[doriana_]

Is Gemma involved in the story? Yope Are there two HAMs? No, there is one H/A/M One who's "he"? No, "he" is not a H/A/M And one who's going to pay something? But yes Is the undiscovered entity a business? This Bank? Person? Organization? Is "it" a product? A service? This An object? A substance? Something that the transaction in question is paying for? Yes Taxes relevant? Taxis? Animals involved at all? No to these Will "he" only be able to use 3/4 of "it"? No, he will use the full service

[GalFisk]

Is "he" H? A? M? Can we call the HAM George? Can we call the business Huttman&Co? Is the service provided to "he" performed by one person? More than one? A team? More than one team? Do the person(s) talk to "he" in order to provide the service? Touch "he"? Transport "he"? Travel relevant? Does George pay for the service? Is "he" Geroge's child? Pet? Inanimate object?

[doriana_]

Is "he" H? A? M? H/C/M, see below Can we call the HAM George? Sure Can we call the business Huttman&Co? Sure Is the service provided to "he" performed by one person? More than one? A team? This More than one team? Do the person(s) talk to "he" in order to provide the service? Yes Touch "he"? Yes Transport "he"? No Travel relevant? No Does George pay for the service? Yes Is "he" Geroge's child? This Pet? Inanimate object?

[GalFisk]

Can we call the child Bernie? Did you mean Bernie should get 25% off? George? Sports relevant? Entertainment? Child care? Education? Size of the team relevant? If so, 2 people? 3? More than 4? More than 10? Does George pay the team? A manager? Someone else?

[doriana_]

Can we call the child Bernie? Sure Did you mean Bernie should get 25% off? George? Well, George is the one paying, but Bernie is the one using the service. And my reasoning was based on something that relates to Bernie. Sports relevant? Entertainment? Child care? This Education? Size of the team relevant? No If so, 2 people? 3? More than 4? More than 10? Does George pay the team? A manager? Someone else? He pays the business

[GalFisk]

Is Bernie being rleevantly cared for: at his some? Someone else's home? Kindergarten? Daycare? School? Other place of education? Camp? George's place of work? George's profession relevant?

[doriana_]

Is Bernie being rleevantly cared for: at his some? Someone else's home? Kindergarten? Daycare? This School? Other place of education? Camp? George's place of work? George's profession relevant? No to all others

[GalFisk]

Is the 25% off related to: time? Daycare facilities? Staff? The actions of staff? Other children at the daycare? Routines at the daycare? Such as meals? Play time? Nap time?

[doriana_]

Is the 25% off related to: time? Daycare facilities? Staff? The actions of staff? Other children at the daycare? Routines at the daycare? Such as meals? Play time? Nap time? Not sure I understand the question correctly. The reason why I think he should get 25 % off is related to another child at the daycare. The 25 % off themselves aren't related to any of these things in particular.

[GalFisk]

Another child: relevant whose child? Age of this child? Gender? Actions? Feelings? Is Bernie friendly towards this child? Antagonistic? Neutral? Indifferent? Fearful? Relevant? Does Bernie relevantly interact with this child outside daycare?

[doriana_]

Another child: relevant whose child? Yes Age of this child? Only insofar as she's older than Bernie, but still young enough to go to daycare Gender? Irrel, but the child is a girl in the real-life situation this puzzle is based on Actions? Feelings? No to these Is Bernie friendly towards this child? This Antagonistic? Neutral? Indifferent? Fearful? Relevant? Not really Does Bernie relevantly interact with this child outside daycare? Yes

[GalFisk]

Is she his sibling? Half-sibling? Step-sibling? Friend? Relative? Neighbour? Relevant how he gets to and from daycare?

[doriana_]

Is she his sibling? Half-sibling? This Step-sibling? Friend? Relative? And this, by extension Neighbour? Relevant how he gets to and from daycare? No

[GalFisk]

Is George paying for daycare for both kids? Should he get half off for the half sibling? Which would be 25% off the whole bill?

[doriana_]

Is George paying for daycare for both kids? Irrel Should he get half off for the half sibling? No, but OTRT Which would be 25% off the whole bill? n/a

[GalFisk]

Does the half sibling live with George and Bernie? If so, always? Half the time? Does Bernie always live with George? Does Bernie's mom? Relevant? Relevant where the half sister's mom lives?
Edit: do the half siblings have the same father? Mother?

[doriana_]

Does the half sibling live with George and Bernie? No If so, always? Half the time? Does Bernie always live with George? Yes Does Bernie's mom? Yes Relevant? Not really Relevant where the half sister's mom lives? She lives close enough that it makes sense for the kids to go to the same daycare
Edit: do the half siblings have the same father? Mother? They have the same father

[GalFisk]

Does George pay anything for the daycare of the half sibling? Can we call her Annie? Is Annie's mom relevant to the puzzle? Bernie's mom?

[doriana_]

Does George pay anything for the daycare of the half sibling? Assume George and Gemma split the costs for her daycare. It's not relevant who pays, just that someone does. Can we call her Annie? Sure Is Annie's mom relevant to the puzzle? Annie is Gemma's daughter, so yes insofar as she told me the story Bernie's mom? No

[GalFisk]

Does Gemma talk about Annie? Bernie? Their time at daycare? About George? About relevant things outside the daycare situation?

[doriana_]

Does Gemma talk about Annie? Bernie? Their time at daycare? About George? She talks about George signing Bernie up for the same daycare that Annie goes to About relevant things outside the daycare situation? No

[GalFisk]

Daycare billing practices relevant? The kids being half siblings relevant? Is 25% = one half of one half relevant? Is there another relevant half, apart from the half sibling thing? Or do the halves from Annie and Bernie make up the relevant 25%?

[doriana_]

Daycare billing practices relevant? Yes The kids being half siblings relevant? Yes Is 25% = one half of one half relevant? Yes Is there another relevant half, apart from the half sibling thing? Yesish Or do the halves from Annie and Bernie make up the relevant 25%? No

[GalFisk]

Do people get half off for siblings? So he should get half-half off for a half sibling?

[doriana_]

Do people get half off for siblings? So he should get half-half off for a half sibling? Yes!

********SPOILER********

My friend Gemma and her ex George share a five-year-old daughter, Annie, who goes to a local daycare (and who prenatally starred in another puzzle of mine). George and his fiancée are planning to send their son Bernie to the same daycare. Typically, the daycare offers a 50 % discount for younger siblings, but they tried to argue that Annie and Bernie aren't really siblings and want to charge George full price. So I suggested that they should get half a discount for the half-sibling.

Well done, GalFisk!