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by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:33 am

Soldiers pass through a liberated town, but their officers eventually realize the joyous welcome isn't as innocent as it seems. What's going on?

by **Sundowner64** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:04 am

A theatre play? or reenactment?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:28 am

A theatre play? or reenactment? Neither.

by **Sarisberie2** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:35 pm

Approx date when this happened - [list of dates], Is the place relevant? Is this historical? Would I find it in the history books etc? Fiction? WW2, other wars, other, relevant? To be sure: DID it actually happen?

Are the people townsfolk? Are they up to nefarious things?

Edit: title relevant?

by **Fate--** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:24 pm

Is it an enemy town? Were they in the wrong era (like time travel)?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:14 pm

Approx date when this happened - [list of dates], 1944. Is the place relevant? Mildly, assume France. Is this historical? Yes. Would I find it in the history books etc? I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, but no, it wouldn't be in the histories. Fiction? This. WW2, This. other wars, other, relevant? Mildly. To be sure: DID it actually happen? No.

Are the people townsfolk? Yes. Are they up to nefarious things? No.

Edit: title relevant? Mildly.

by **Sarisberie2** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:31 pm

Are the soldiers British, French, German, American... etc? Is the town recently liberated, soon to be liberated, relevant? Do one or other party believe the war to be over? Was there a ceasefire? Did this town get a special mention in the history books? Were Bill and Joe actual participants in this war, or relevantly something else?
EDIT: "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" relevant?

by **GalFisk** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:05 pm

Relevant who welcomes them? Is there some trickery going on? Fakery? Are they in danger? Are the people joyous? If so, for the reason they think?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:09 am

Are the soldiers British, French, German, American... etc? American. Is the town recently liberated, This. soon to be liberated, relevant? No. Do one or other party believe the war to be over? No. Was there a ceasefire? No. Did this town get a special mention in the history books? No. Were Bill and Joe actual participants in this war, Yes. or relevantly something else?
EDIT: "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" relevant? No.

Relevant who welcomes them? No. Is there some trickery going on? For a sufficiently vague value of "trickery." Fakery? No. Are they in danger? No. Are the people joyous? Yes. If so, for the reason they think? Yes.

by **Sundowner64** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:01 am

Please answer Fate's questions of 7 March 2023 03:24 PM. Fate is a new hand on our forum, the post needed to be approved before it becomes visible. Thanks.

by **Fate--** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:41 pm

Did the town think wrong about something?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:20 pm

Is it an enemy town? No. Were they in the wrong era (like time travel)? Ha! Good question. No.

Did the town think wrong about something? No.

Welcome!

by **Fate--** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:37 pm

Did the town despise the soldiers beforehand? Did the soldiers misunderstand something?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:29 pm

Did the town despise the soldiers beforehand? No. Did the soldiers misunderstand something? The officers did.

by **Fate--** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:45 am

Did the officers go to a wrong town? Is the dead related? Were they late?

by **GalFisk** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:31 am

Are the officers mistaken? And think the welcome is less innocent than it actually is? Relevant how many officers there are? Their ranks? How they're treated by the townsfolk? Relevant how the town fared during the occupation? During the liberation?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:51 am

Did the officers go to a wrong town? Is the dead related? Were they late? No to all.

Are the officers mistaken? And think the welcome is less innocent than it actually is? No to both. Relevant how many officers there are? No. Their ranks? No - assume Colonel or below. How they're treated by the townsfolk? Relevant how the town fared during the occupation? During the liberation? No to the rest.

by **Fate--** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:44 am

Was there something bad going on in town? Did someone die recently?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:10 pm

Was there something bad going on in town? No. Did someone die recently? No.

by **Fate--** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:12 pm

Did the town do something bad intentionally to the soldiers?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:32 pm

Did the town do something bad intentionally to the soldiers? No.

by **Sundowner64** » Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:25 pm

Joyous welcome: people cheering? dancing? music? banners? flags? flowers for the soldiers? the mayor greeting them?
Do the soldiers plan to stay in this town? just pass by?
Were the joyous people locals?
Did the people in the town expect to benefit from the US soldiers' presence in a very specific way? like: did they have a large stock of smuggled tobacco and wanted to sell it to the soldiers?
Was there a mistake on the side of the US Army? Was the town already liberated a while ago and now a second unit attempted to liberate it once more?
Language relevant? Did the name of the town sound funny in English?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:59 am

Joyous welcome: people cheering? dancing? music? banners? flags? flowers for the soldiers? the mayor greeting them? No. Assume yes to all the rest, plus...
Do the soldiers plan to stay in this town? just pass by? This.
Were the joyous people locals? Yes.
Did the people in the town expect to benefit from the US soldiers' presence in a very specific way? No. like: did they have a large stock of smuggled tobacco and wanted to sell it to the soldiers?
Was there a mistake on the side of the US Army? No. Was the town already liberated a while ago and now a second unit attempted to liberate it once more?
Language relevant? Did the name of the town sound funny in English? No; assume France.

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:03 am

Did the town accuse them of something?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:24 am

Did the town accuse them of something? No.

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:42 am

Were the crowd happy? Were the crowd agitated? Were the crowd felt robbed of something? Would some of the crowd be alternatively absent?

by **GalFisk** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:51 am

Is the lower level of innocence shared by all townsfolk? Many? A few? Just one? Is the joyous welcome spontaneous? Planned? Less spontaneous than it seems? Are the enemies of the soldiers relevant at all?

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am

Were one another aware of the thing that was not innocent? Was it a welcoming ceremony?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:45 pm

Were the crowd happy? Yes. Were the crowd agitated? Were the crowd felt robbed of something? Would some of the crowd be alternatively absent? No to the rest.

Is the lower level of innocence shared by all townsfolk? Many? A few? Just one? Excellent question. None. Is the joyous welcome spontaneous? The bit this puzzle is concerned with is. Planned?Irr. Less spontaneous than it seems? Are the enemies of the soldiers relevant at all? No.

Were one another aware of the thing that was not innocent? Explore. Was it a welcoming ceremony? No.

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:25 pm

Would the crowd want the soldiers to do something that can make them happy? Was there a conflict of interest? Were jokes involved? Did the crowd want the soldiers to do something?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:18 pm

Would the crowd want the soldiers to do something that can make them happy? They already had. Was there a conflict of interest? No. Were jokes involved? Yes. Did the crowd want the soldiers to do something? No.

by **Fate--** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:54 am

Was the whole ceremony a prank? Was part of the ceremony a prank?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:09 am

Was the whole ceremony a prank? Was part of the ceremony a prank? No ceremony involved. There is a prank (for sufficiently vague values of "prank") being played.

by **Fate--** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:15 am

Were party poppers involved? Were something similar party poppers involved?

by **GalFisk** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:24 am

Are people who aren't townsfolk involved? People pretend doing to be townsfolk? Other people from the same side as the soldiers?

by **Sundowner64** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:23 pm

Were the locals pranking the soldiers? the officers? a group of locals pranking another group? soldiers pranking the officers?
Were the expressions of welcome staged?
Did the locals have something to hide? did he soldiers? the officers?
As the soldiers were just passing by: did the locals want them to stay? want them to move on the sooner the better?
As the locals did not share the view of a not so innocent joy: was there something going on the locals were not aware of?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:58 pm

Were party poppers involved? Were something similar party poppers involved? No to both.

Are people who aren't townsfolk involved? Yes. People pretend doing to be townsfolk? Other people from the same side as the soldiers? No to both.

Were the locals pranking the soldiers? the officers? a group of locals pranking another group? soldiers pranking the officers? This.
Were the expressions of welcome staged? No.
Did the locals have something to hide? did he soldiers? the officers? No to all.
As the soldiers were just passing by: did the locals want them to stay? want them to move on the sooner the better? Irr.
As the locals did not share the view of a not so innocent joy: was there something going on the locals were not aware of? No.

by **Fate--** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:01 pm

Was there a friendly tease? Did the soldiers just smiled and be good sports?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:23 pm

Was there a friendly tease? Arguably. Did the soldiers just smiled and be good sports? Irr.

by **Fate--** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:26 pm

Was it friendly tease about their heroism?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:20 pm

Was it friendly tease about their heroism? No. And it was more than teasing.

by **Sarisberie2** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:36 pm

Did a fight ensue? Was it (whatever 'it' was) ill-intended? Some kind on payback? Did the locals 'imprison' the officers or apply some kind of penalty?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:41 am

Did a fight ensue? No. Was it (whatever 'it' was) ill-intended? Mildly. Some kind on payback? Possibly. Did the locals 'imprison' the officers or apply some kind of penalty? No. FA.

by **GalFisk** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:32 pm

Are the soldiers doing the less innocent thing? If so, all of them? Some? A few? Just one? Is any solder disguised as a townsperson? Is it a prank? Is it directed at all officers? Some? A few? Just one?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:40 pm

Are the soldiers doing the less innocent thing? Yes. If so, all of them? Some? A few? This. Just one? Is any solder disguised as a townsperson? No. Is it a prank? For SVV of prank. Is it directed at all officers? Some? A few? This. Just one?

by **Sundowner64** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:00 am

Did the soldiers cheer up the local people? encourage them to be more joyous?

by **GalFisk** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:00 pm

for SVV of prank: joke? Game? Revenge? Subterfuge? Skullduggery? Stupidity? Mockery?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:45 am

Did the soldiers cheer up the local people? No. encourage them to be more joyous? No.

for SVV of prank: joke? Game? Revenge? Possibly. Subterfuge? Skullduggery? Stupidity? Mockery? Mostly this.

by **GalFisk** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:45 am

So some soldiers are mocking some officers, correct? Is the mockery understood by: the other soldiers? The townspeople? the targeted officers? The other officers? Is the mockery done by imitating them? Relevant what language the soldiers use? The townsfolk use? Singing relevant?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:32 pm

So some soldiers are mocking some officers, correct? Er, in the light of your other questions, mockery is probably NOT the appropriate type. Blooper alert. Is the mockery understood by: the other soldiers? Oh, yes. The townspeople? Depends on whether they're paying close attention. the targeted officers? Once they realize what's going on. The other officers? Assume no others are present, or at least in range. Is the mockery done by imitating them? Relevant what language the soldiers use? The townsfolk use? Singing relevant? Language not used.

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:06 pm

Does the town have military personnel? Is this military personnel involved in the "prank"? Are vocals (like mouth) involved in this prank? Are claps or anything in that nature involved in the prank?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:55 pm

Does the town have military personnel? No. Is this military personnel involved in the "prank"? No. Are vocals (like mouth) involved in this prank? No. Are claps or anything in that nature involved in the prank? There is a relevant physical movement.

by **GalFisk** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:40 am

Imitation relevant? Following the letter but not the spirit of a rule? Or order? Exaggeration relevant? Is their clothing relevant? Object(s)?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:17 pm

Imitation relevant? Following the letter but not the spirit of a rule? Or order? Exaggeration relevant? Is their clothing relevant? Object(s)? This (multiple). None of the others.

by **GalFisk** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:56 am

Objects: flags? Medals? Weapons? Vehicles? Instruments? Food? Drink? Containers? Objects from the town? From the military? From the enemy? Personal property of soldiers? Objects created by the soldiers? Were the objects: worn? Carried? Transported? Moved? Stationary? Bigger than breadboxes? Did the bojects belong tot he officers? Were they stolen? Borrowed? Were the soldiers not supposed to have the objects?

by **Sundowner64** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:32 am

Were the soldiers marching by foot? Were they in cars/trucks? on motorbikes? on horses?
Military salute relevant? Did the soldiers handle their gun in a specific way? to mockingly resemble a military salute?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:32 am

Objects: flags? Medals? Weapons? Vehicles? Instruments? Food? This. Drink? Containers? Objects from the town? This. From the military? From the enemy? Personal property of soldiers? Objects created by the soldiers? Were the objects: worn? Carried? Briefly. Transported? Briefly. Moved? Stationary? No. Bigger than breadboxes? No. Did the objects belong to the officers? No. Were they stolen? Borrowed? Neither. Were the soldiers not supposed to have the objects? Incorrect.

Were the soldiers marching by foot? Were they in cars/trucks? This. on motorbikes? on horses?
Military salute relevant? Did the soldiers handle their gun in a specific way? to mockingly resemble a military salute? No to all.

by **Sarisberie2** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:52 am

Was it only food, or something else too?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:01 am

Was it only food, or something else too? Only food is relevant.

by **GalFisk** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:38 pm

Was the food given by the townspeople? Was it eaten by the soldiers? If the manner of eating relevant? Was it eaten in an overly refined manner? Relevant what type of food? Did it have: grain? Roots? Leaves? Fruit? Berries? Veggies? Dairy? Fish? Bird? Farm animal? Wild animal? Crustacean? Egg? Seeds? Sugar? Honey? Was it candy?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:45 am

Was the food given by the townspeople? Yes. Was it eaten by the soldiers? No. If the manner of eating relevant? Was it eaten in an overly refined manner? Relevant what type of food? Yes. Did it have: grain? Roots? Leaves? Fruit? This. Berries? Veggies? Dairy? Fish? Bird? Farm animal? Wild animal? Crustacean? Egg? No, but could work for purposes of the puzzle. Seeds? Sugar? Honey? Was it candy?

by **GalFisk** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:40 am

Was it: eaten by someone else? Saved? Thrown? Given away? If so, tot he officers in question? Relevantly not to them? Fed to animals? Type of fruit relevant? Was it locally grown? Is the thing the solderis do a reference to something that has happened earlier? Or a reaction? Do they pretend the fruits are something else? Such as hand granades?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:03 pm

Was it: eaten by someone else? Saved? Thrown? This. Given away? If so, to the officers in question? Relevantly not to them? Fed to animals? Type of fruit relevant? Assume grapes - anything juicy would do, though. Was it locally grown? Is the thing the solders do a reference to something that has happened earlier? Or a reaction? Possibly this. Exact reasoning irrelevant. Do they pretend the fruits are something else? Such as hand grenades? No, though they are using a similar skill.

by **GalFisk** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:42 pm

Are they throwing the grapes at: each other? Other soldiers? The targeted officers? All officers? Other people? Animals? Buildings? Vehicles? The ground? Are they thrown with great force? Great precision? A great distance? Are they thrown in a manner that makes it hard to know who threw? do they splatter? Make stains? Bounce? Annoy someone? After being thrown, are they inedible to humans? Relevant how many are thrown? If so, less than 5? 10? 50? 100? More?

by **JenBurdoo1** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:59 am

Are they throwing the grapes at: each other? Other soldiers? The targeted officers? This. All officers? Other people? Animals? Buildings? Vehicles? The ground? Are they thrown with great force? Enough. Great precision? Yes. A great distance? No. Are they thrown in a manner that makes it hard to know who threw? From the point of view of the concerned officers, yes. do they splatter? Yes. Make stains? Probably. Bounce? Annoy someone? Yes. After being thrown, are they inedible to humans? Probably. Relevant how many are thrown? If so, less than 5? 10? Assume around this. 50? 100? More?

SPOILER

In the linked "Willie and Joe" cartoon by Bill Mauldin (hence the puzzle title), a convoy of American soldiers passes through a French town, whose inhabitants are passing out fruit, wine and flowers to the soldiers. Two officers in a jeep have been struck several times by what appear to be grapes and plums, which are being thrown at them by privates in the truck behind them. One says to the other, "My, sir, what an enthusiastic welcome!"

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