[Doriana] To Mars

[doriana_]

Why do Eloise (H/A/F) and Oliver (H/A/M) always leave their apartment 30 seconds apart?

[Fate--]

Is technology involved? Is the police involved? Is farting involved?

[Sundowner64]

Do they live in the same apartment? together?
Does always Eloise leave first? always Oliver? relevant?
Does someone else leave the apartment together with them? some H/C/* or D/A/*?

[Sarisberie2]

Exactly 30 seconds? Do they both live there? Anyone else? Keys relevant? Do they both leave the same apartment, or is there more than one?

[JenBurdoo1]

Is 30 seconds the time it takes for something to cycle? WAG: An airlock?

[GalFisk]

Is it a normal apartment? Left in a normal way? Do they want to do it like this? Do they have to? Do they like it? Is it 30 seconds on the dot? Is a timer involved?

[Sarisberie2]

Is there relevantly something they take with them, or leave behind?
Do they do something relevant before, or after, leaving the house?

[doriana_]

Fate
Is technology involved? Yes Is the police involved? No Is farting involved? No

Sundowner
Do they live in the same apartment? together? Yes to both
Does always Eloise leave first? always Oliver? relevant? Irrel, assume that sometimes Eloise leaves first and sometimes Oliver
Does someone else leave the apartment together with them? No some H/C/* or D/A/*?

Sarisberie
Exactly 30 seconds? No Do they both live there? Yes Anyone else? No Keys relevant? No Do they both leave the same apartment This, or is there more than one?

JenBurdoo
Is 30 seconds the time it takes for something to cycle? WAG: An airlock? No to these

GalFisk
Is it a normal apartment? Yes Left in a normal way? Yope Do they want to do it like this? Do they have to? They could as well not do it, but there's an advantage to doing it this way Do they like it? Not particularly, but it works for them Is it 30 seconds on the dot? No Is a timer involved? No

Sarisberie
Is there relevantly something they take with them, or leave behind? No to both
Do they do something relevant before, or after, leaving the house? They do something relevant, but neither before nor after leaving

[GalFisk]

Animal(s) involved? Pet(s)? Technology: smartphone? Cellphone? Door lock? Alarm? Something internet-connected? Networked? Wireless? Battery-powered? Mechanical? Key(s) relevant? Lock(s)? Clothing relevant? Making sure you left the apartment in a safe and economical state? Such a lights off? Stove off? Door actually locked? If three people live there, would it work best if they left all 15 seconds apart? All 30 seconds apart? One first, then the two others after 30 seconds? Two first, then the last one after 30 seconds? Are people not living there relevant? Is an elevator relevant? Other transportation? Relevant on which floor they're living? How many apartments there are? How many floors there are?

[doriana_]

Animal(s) involved? Pet(s)? No to both Technology: smartphone? Cellphone? Door lock? Alarm? Something internet-connected? Networked? Wireless? Battery-powered? Mechanical? This and something else, no to rest Key(s) relevant? Lock(s)? Clothing relevant? Making sure you left the apartment in a safe and economical state? Such a lights off? Stove off? Door actually locked? No to all If three people live there, would it work best if they left all 15 seconds apart? All 30 seconds apart? One first, then the two others after 30 seconds? This Two first, then the last one after 30 seconds? Or this Are people not living there relevant? No Is an elevator relevant? No Other transportation? No Relevant on which floor they're living? Somewhat. This is based on a true story in which they live on the 3rd floor (i.e. 4th floor for our American friends)How many apartments there are? No How many floors there are? Only that there's more than one

[GalFisk]

Mechanical and: electrical? Electronic? Related to sound? Water? Heat? Would they do this if they lived on the ground floor? Relevant what the first one does after leaving, but before the second one leaves? Does the first one wait just outside the apartment door? Is the door closed between the two leaving? Is the mechanical thing in the door? Is it the door? Is it related to the door?

[doriana_]

GalFisk
Mechanical and: electrical? This Electronic? Related to sound? Water? Heat? None of these Would they do this if they lived on the ground floor? Assume no Relevant what the first one does after leaving, but before the second one leaves? Yes Does the first one wait just outside the apartment door? No Is the door closed between the two leaving? No Is the mechanical thing in the door? Is it the door? Is it related to the door? No to all

[Biograd1]

Is this arrangement mainly for the benefit of the person who leaves later? for the benefit of the person who leaves earlier? equally for both of them? Are they testing something about the workings of the building (for example, the person outside the apartment listens for noises in the pipes when the person still inside turns on the water)?

Do the two people interact in some way after the first person has left the apartment (e.g., the person still in the apartment throws something out the window to the other, who is standing on the sidewalk outside and catches it, or the person outside yells up to the person who stayed behind to tell him/her something, etc.)?

[GalFisk]

Does an electrical/mechanical thing take 30 seconds to do something? Would any couple living in this apartment find this to be a good way of leaving? Does the first person to leave turn on something? Turn off something? Lights relevant?

[doriana_]

Biograd
Is this arrangement mainly for the benefit of the person who leaves later? for the benefit of the person who leaves earlier? equally for both of them? This Are they testing something about the workings of the building (for example, the person outside the apartment listens for noises in the pipes when the person still inside turns on the water)? No

Do the two people interact in some way after the first person has left the apartment (e.g., the person still in the apartment throws something out the window to the other, who is standing on the sidewalk outside and catches it, or the person outside yells up to the person who stayed behind to tell him/her something, etc.)? No

GalFisk
Does an electrical/mechanical thing take 30 seconds to do something? No Would any couple living in this apartment find this to be a good way of leaving? Assume yes Does the first person to leave turn on something? Yes, and so does the second person Turn off something? Yesish, and so does the second person Lights relevant? Yes

[GalFisk]

Are there lights that turn off after being on for a while? Buttons to press? Sensors to activate? Are there more than one sets of lights, turned on or off independently? Stairway lighting relevant? Is something broken? Are people in other nearby apartments also doing this? People on other floors, apart form the ground floor? Does doing this help keep them from having to do something without adeqaute light?

[Biograd1]

To make questions clearer, let's call the person who leaves early (whichever of Eloise or Oliver it happens to be on a given day) Person A, and whoever leaves later I will call Person B.

So Person A AND Person B BOTH turn on AND turn off at least one light? If so, is it the same light(s), such that the pattern is light on--light off--light on--light off, in that order? I mean to differentiate this from the case where, for example, Person A turns off light #1 and turns on light #2, the latter of which remains on until Person B leaves, who then turns light #2 off and turns light #1 back on again.

If it's the case of the same light or group of lights being switched four times, is the sequence ON--OFF--30 seconds--ON-OFF, in other words does one on-off cycle occur as each person leaves, with the break in between them? Or is it rather ON--30 seconds--OFF--ON--OFF? or ON--OFF--ON--30 seconds--OFF? Are lights with more than one switch relevant, such that they can be turned on while standing in one location and then off while standing somewhere else some distance away (or vice versa)?

In the case of more than one light or group of lights, is the crux of the issue that one light needs to be already on in order to illuminate the way to the switch of the other light, without having to find it in the dark?

[Fate--]

Is it really important for them to do this? Do they want to save electricity? Do they want to check each other in some way? Do they count to 30 seconds? Do they let some technology (like cellphone) do the counting to 30 seconds?

ALSO, I accidentally asked a question which may/may not be a Yes/No question so I edited them to be Yes/No questions. Is this cheating?

[doriana_]

GalFisk
Are there lights that turn off after being on for a while? No Buttons to press? Yes Sensors to activate? No Are there more than one sets of lights, turned on or off independently? No Stairway lighting relevant? Yes Is something broken? Yes Are people in other nearby apartments also doing this? People on other floors, apart form the ground floor? Unknown to both, assume yes Does doing this help keep them from having to do something without adeqaute light? Yes

Biograd
To make questions clearer, let's call the person who leaves early (whichever of Eloise or Oliver it happens to be on a given day) Person A, and whoever leaves later I will call Person B. Sure

So Person A AND Person B BOTH turn on AND turn off at least one light? Yes If so, is it the same light(s), such that the pattern is light on--light off--light on--light off, in that order? Yes I mean to differentiate this from the case where, for example, Person A turns off light #1 and turns on light #2, the latter of which remains on until Person B leaves, who then turns light #2 off and turns light #1 back on again.

If it's the case of the same light or group of lights being switched four times, is the sequence ON--OFF--30 seconds--ON-OFF, in other words does one on-off cycle occur as each person leaves, with the break in between them? Or is it rather ON--30 seconds--OFF--ON--OFF? This or ON--OFF--ON--30 seconds--OFF? Are lights with more than one switch relevant, such that they can be turned on while standing in one location and then off while standing somewhere else some distance away (or vice versa)? Yes

In the case of more than one light or group of lights, is the crux of the issue that one light needs to be already on in order to illuminate the way to the switch of the other light, without having to find it in the dark? N/a as there is just one set of lights

Fate
Is it really important for them to do this? No, but it makes sense for them to do this Do they want to save electricity? No Do they want to check each other in some way? No Do they count to 30 seconds? No, what they do just happens to take approx. 30 seconds Do they let some technology (like cellphone) do the counting to 30 seconds? No

ALSO, I accidentally asked a question which may/may not be a Yes/No question so I edited them to be Yes/No questions. Is this cheating? Don't worry too much about cheating on this forum, it's perfectly fine to edit questions to make them fit the yes/no pattern

[Fate--]

Does the light have an internal clock?

[GalFisk]

Were the lights supposed to have a timer, but it's broken? Do they need to hold down a button for the lights to stay on? Are there multiple buttons that turn on the same lights? Does one person hold down a button near the door while the other walks to the next button, then the other holds down that button while the first one walks?

[doriana_]

Fate
Does the light have an internal clock? See below

GalFisk
Were the lights supposed to have a timer, but it's broken? Do they need to hold down a button for the lights to stay on? Are there multiple buttons that turn on the same lights? Does one person hold down a button near the door while the other walks to the next button, then the other holds down that button while the first one walks? Yup, spot on!

********SPOILER********

The stairway lights in Eloise's and Oliver's apartment complex have been broken for a while and they need to hold down the button for them to stay on. So whenever they leave their 3rd floor apartment, one of them will walk down the stairs while the other one holds down the light switch near the door. Once the first person reaches the ground floor - which takes about 30 seconds -, they will hold down the light switch there while the other person walks down the stairs.

Well done, GalFisk, and thanks for playing, everyone!