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by **BalinTheDwarf** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:04 am

Nick is crying and hungry with cold feet. He will soon be crying more. Why?

by **Sundowner64** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:10 am

Is Nick H/A/M?

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:33 am

If it's not cheating, what is H/A/M?

Is he homeless? Something similar? Out of money?

by **GalFisk** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 am

H/A/M is human/adult/male.
Cold feet: physically cold? Or cold feet in the idiomatic sense? Same q for hungry, presently-crying, and soon-crying.
Is the present crying caused by: pain? Sadness? Anger? Gas/vapor? Other substance? Onions? Same q's for soon-crying.

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:29 pm

Is Nick H/A/M? HCM

If it's not cheating, what is H/A/M? As GalFisk answered below, it's Human / Adult / Male. Here is a good collection of the acronyms and abbreviations you might find on the forum. (Welcome!)

Cold feet: physically cold? This Or cold feet in the idiomatic sense? Same q for hungry, presently-crying, and soon-crying. Literal & physical all
Is the present crying caused by: pain? Sadness? This, along with the hunger and the cold feet Anger? Gas/vapor? Other substance? Onions? Same q's for soon-crying. Also sadness

by **Sarisberie2** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:47 pm

Is he outside? Inside but without heating, lost, shoeless, naked? Has/is somebody died/dying? Is this a war? Ukraine? Has someone else died, got lost, suffering?

Will he be crying more due to: general worsening of his situation? a new event? actions caused by someone else?

"onions"

by **Fate--** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:20 am

Is he homeless? Something similar? Out of money? Did he run out of something?

by **GalFisk** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:27 am

When he cries more, will he still be hungry? Still have cold feet? Are his parents/guardians relevant? Is he lost? Has he lost something? Or someone?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:52 pm

Is he outside? Yes Inside but without heating, lost, shoeless, naked? None of these Has/is somebody died/dying? No Is this a war? No Ukraine? No Has someone else died, got lost, suffering? No

Will he be crying more due to: general worsening of his situation? Yes a new event? No actions caused by someone else? No

Is he homeless? No Something similar? No Out of money? No Did he run out of something? No

When he cries more, will he still be hungry? Yes Still have cold feet? Yes Are his parents/guardians relevant? Yes (parents) Is he lost? No Has he lost something? No Or someone? No

by **Sarisberie2** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:21 am

Are his parents, or anyone else at all, present? Have they abandoned him? Location relevant? Nick's age relevant? Is this going to have a happy or sad ending? Is it present day, past, future [list of dates or whatever]

by **JenBurdoo1** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:48 am

Is his crying due to pain? Sorrow? Frustration? Fatigue?

Is he traveling? For example, going for a walk with his parents? And is just tired? If someone picked him up and carried him, or put him in a stroller, would the problem be ameliorated?

Is his precise age relevant? If so, is he infant/toddler/preschool/elementary/middle/high schooler?

Is the weather relevant? What he's wearing?

by **GalFisk** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:29 pm

Is anyone else relevantly crying? Hungry? Cold-footed? Otherwise miserable? Is anyone trying to lessen his misery? Increase his misery?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:20 am

Are his parents, or anyone else at all, present? Yes Have they abandoned him? No Location relevant? Yes Nick's age relevant? His relative age might help; see below Is this going to have a happy or sad ending? Sad, but not with any major consequences Is it present day, past, future [list of dates or whatever] Present day

Is his crying due to pain? The first time, this (the cold feet) and something else Sorrow? The second time, pain (the cold feet), this, and something else Frustration? Fatigue? Not these

Is he traveling? For part of the story For example, going for a walk with his parents? Not "going for a walk," but they are walking for part of the story And is just tired? No If someone picked him up and carried him, or put him in a stroller, would the problem be ameliorated? No

Is his precise age relevant? Not precise, but: If so, is he infant/toddler/preschool/elementary/middle/high schooler? He's either elementary or middle school aged. More likely elementary

Is the weather relevant? No What he's wearing? Yes, svv of "wearing"

Is anyone else relevantly crying? Hungry? Cold-footed? No to these Otherwise miserable? Maybe, I wouldn't say "miserable" Is anyone trying to lessen his misery? No, but... Increase his misery? No

by **Sarisberie2** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:12 am

Is he wearing a blanket?

by **GalFisk** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:58 pm

Has he been cold-footed, hungry and crying for: seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? More? Will he soon be crying more for: seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? More?
Did he get cold-footed first? Hungry first? Crying first? Is his footwear relevant? Does he have any? Did he lose some footwear? Damage it? Is anyone else present cold-footed? Hungry? Crying? Are people other than him and his parents relevant? Is he traveling: now? Soon? Before the puzzle? After? Mode of transport relevant? Did he cause his own hunger? His own cold feet? Is he with his parents throughout the puzzle?

by **Sarisberie2** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:58 am

Is there some kind of scam going on, e.g. parents using him to get sympathy from others? Will he be taken by social services? Hospital, doctor, another person/guardian/family? Is he fearful? Being abandoned by his parents?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:20 am

Is he wearing a blanket? No

Has he been cold-footed, hungry and crying for: seconds? Minutes? This, but not many Hours? Days? Weeks? More? Will he soon be crying more for: seconds? Minutes? This, but not many Hours? Days? Weeks? More?
Did he get cold-footed first? This Hungry first? Crying first? Is his footwear relevant? Yes Does he have any? Yes Did he lose some footwear? No Damage it? No Is anyone else present cold-footed? Hungry? Crying? No to these Are people other than him and his parents relevant? One person Is he traveling: now? In the moments leading up to now Soon? Before the puzzle? After? Mode of transport relevant? Yes Did he cause his own hunger? No His own cold feet? No Is he with his parents throughout the puzzle? Yes

Is there some kind of scam going on Yes e.g. parents using him to get sympathy from others? No Will he be taken by social services? No Hospital, doctor, another person/guardian/family? No Is he fearful? No Being abandoned by his parents? No

by **Sarisberie2** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:53 am

Have they done this scam before? number of times? Is he normally in school, relevant? Is this a kind of switch/swap scam, e.g. a way of getting free or better shoes? Is theft relevant? Does the scam appeal to peoples' good nature? Are his family (or someone else) gaining money or other advantage from this scam? Is his mode of transport being carried, other, relevant?

by **GalFisk** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:25 am

Who's scamming: he? The father? The mother? The other person? Who's being scammed: him? The father? the mother? The other person? Is the other person present? HAM? Is he wearing his footwear? Is the fottwear appropriate for the situation? Mode of transport: walking? Bicycle? Moped? Motorbike? Ebike? Car? Bus? Train? Plane? Boat? Hovercraft? Helicopter? Submarine? Sled? Wagon? Horse? Other animal?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:50 pm

Have they done this scam before? Assume No number of times? Is he normally in school, relevant? School is irrel Is this a kind of switch/swap scam, e.g. a way of getting free or better shoes? No Is theft relevant? No Does the scam appeal to peoples' good nature? No Are his family (or someone else) gaining money or other advantage from this scam? No Is his mode of transport being carried, other, relevant? Other, yes

Who's scamming: he? The father? The mother? All three The other person? Who's being scammed: him? The father? the mother? The other person? This Is the other person present? Yes HAM? H, A or T, Irrel Is he wearing his footwear? Yes Is the fottwear appropriate for the situation? Yope Mode of transport: walking? This Bicycle? Moped? Motorbike? Ebike? Car? Bus? Train? Plane? Boat? Hovercraft? Helicopter? Submarine? Sled? Wagon? Horse? Other animal?

by **Fate--** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:18 pm

Does Nick have a sickness? Is he being remedied?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Does Nick have a sickness? No Is he being remedied? No

by **Sundowner64** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:42 am

Are they trying to obtain something from the other person? money? food? other stuff? a permission to to something?
Is the other person a government official?
Are they already known as scammers?
Does the other person realize the scam?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:44 am

Are they trying to obtain something from the other person? Yes money? food? other stuff? a permission to to something? This
Is the other person a government official? No
Are they already known as scammers? No
Does the other person realize the scam? Yes

by **Sarisberie2** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:18 pm

Is he pretending to be disabled, ill or otherwise at a disadvantage? Does he want to enter somewhere he can't normally go, or to avoid paying?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:19 pm

Is he pretending to be disabled, ill or otherwise at a disadvantage? No Does he want to enter somewhere he can't normally go <-- Yes or to avoid paying? No

by **doriana_** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:15 pm

Can he not normally go there because of his age? If so, is the place a pub? casino? movie theatre? Could his parents normally go there without him?

WAG: Are they trying to cross a border?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:10 pm

Can he not normally go there because of his age? No If so, is the place a pub? casino? movie theatre? Neither Could his parents normally go there without him? Yes

WAG: Are they trying to cross a border? No

by **GalFisk** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:37 pm

Does he want to go to an area? Building? Event? Vehicle? Will he soon be crying more because he won't be allowed to go?

by **doriana_** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:44 pm

Is there a relevant height restriction? Are they in line for a ride at a theme park?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:29 am

Does he want to go to an area? Building? Event? Vehicle? Hmm... se below Will he soon be crying more because he won't be allowed to go? Yes

Is there a relevant height restriction? Yes Are they in line for a ride at a theme park? Yes!

by **doriana_** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:39 pm

Is he wearing footwear that makes him appear taller? If so, heels? platform shoes? Is he on stilts?

Is he hungry because they've been waiting in line for a long time?

by **Sarisberie2** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:17 am

Did he remove his shoes to be short enough for the ride? Or put them on to be tall enough?
Did he want to have colder feet, and not walk, so he would remain a couple of mm taller than if he walked?
Is this early or late in the day? When he started queuing, was he at his optimum height to qualify for the ride, but by the time his turn came, he had shrunk a few mm and was now too short for the ride's safety standards? Some variation on this idea?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:56 pm

Is he wearing footwear that makes him appear taller? Yes, for svv of "footwear" If so, heels? platform shoes? Is he on stilts? None of these

Is he hungry because they've been waiting in line for a long time? No

Did he remove his shoes to be short enough for the ride? Or put them on to be tall enough? Neither
Did he want to have colder feet, and not walk, so he would remain a couple of mm taller than if he walked? No
Is this early or late in the day? Irrel When he started queuing, was he at his optimum height to qualify for the ride, but by the time his turn came, he had shrunk a few mm and was now too short for the ride's safety standards? Yes, for svv of "he had shrunk" Some variation on this idea?

by **Sundowner64** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:30 am

Did he put something under his shoes? under his feet inside the shoes? if so: a food item? (rather than eating it)

by **doriana_** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:52 pm

If Sundowner is OTRT: Did he put ice packs in his shoes? a frozen/chilled food item?

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:58 am

Did he put something under his shoes? No under his feet inside the shoes? Yes if so: a food item? Yes! (rather than eating it)

If Sundowner is OTRT: Did he put ice packs in his shoes? No a frozen/chilled food item? Yes

The rest would be nitty-gritty, so:

****SPOILER****

The parents put ice cream bars in the child's shoes so that he would be over the height cutoff for a roller coaster and be able to ride. The ice cream bars melted while they were walking to the ride and waiting in line, so by the time they reached the front of the queue he was still too short to ride.

by **JenBurdoo1** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:18 pm

Ooh, that is just not on. I hope this isn't based on a real incident!

by **BalinTheDwarf** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:46 pm

ROIMBT; see the link in the SPOILER banner.