[Sarisberie] Then it became a Thing

[Sarisberie2]

They were in the supermarket. She said something to him, and he kicked off!
The next time they went there, he was a bit grumpy.
The third time, he said, “Oh yes, ha ha, very funny!
What was the thing she said?

[GalFisk]

Kicked off: became angry? They: a couple? Friends? Relatives? Two people? HA, F+M? Relevant how much time elapsed between the three times they went there? Did she intend for him to: kick off? Be grumpy? Say something was funny? Did he say it was funny in a sincere way? Sarcastic way? When he said “Oh yes, ha ha, very funny!", was he referring to the thing she said the first time they were there? Did she say this thing the second time? Third time? If not, did she do something that reminded him of what she said? Or did going to the supermarket remind him of the thing she said? Did they ever got here without one another? Relevant? Relevant where they were in the supermatker the first time? Second time? Third time? did she say something about him? Herself? Someone else? The supermarket? A product? Money? What they were buying?

[Sarisberie2]

Kicked off: became angry? yes They: a couple? yes Friends? this would work too Relatives? Two people? HA, F+M? yes Relevant how much time elapsed between the three times they went there? a week Did she intend for him to: kick off? no Be grumpy? likely, or maybe kick off again Say something was funny? no Did he say it was funny in a sincere way? Sarcastic way? yes When he said “Oh yes, ha ha, very funny!", was he referring to the thing she said the first time they were there? yes Did she say this thing the second time? yes Third time? yes If not, did she do something that reminded him of what she said? no Or did going to the supermarket remind him of the thing she said? no Did they ever got here without one another? poss Relevant? no Relevant where they were in the supermatker the first time? yes Second time? yes Third time? yes did she say something about him? Herself? Someone else? The supermarket? A product? Money? What they were buying? no to all

[GalFisk]

Were they in the checkout line? Self checkout relevant? Were they hear a relevant food? Or other product? Did they have a shopping cart? Basket? Bag? Relevant? Relevant what they had already collected? Had they already paid? Did she say something about money? About him? Was she teasing him?

[Sarisberie2]

Were they in the checkout line? yope Self checkout relevant? no Were they hear a relevant food? Or other product? various, irrel Did they have a shopping cart? yes Basket? Bag? bags Relevant? yes Relevant what they had already collected? no Had they already paid? no Did she say something about money? no About him? no, but explore Was she teasing him? yope...

[GalFisk]

Yoping in the checkout line: was he in it, but she not? Was she in it, but he not? Were they in it, but it was not a line? Were they just about to join it? Leave it? Check out? Did he think she said something about him? Did he think she was teasing him? Did she say something about the cart? Was he pushing the cart? Was she? Was the cart heavy? Light? Hard to steer? Defective or damaged? did she say something negative? Neutral? Positive? Are any other humans relevant? Any animals?

[Sarisberie2]

Yoping in the checkout line: was he in it, but she not? Was she in it, but he not? They were both actually going thru checkout & packing the items in bags Were they in it, but it was not a line? it WAS a line Were they just about to join it? Leave it? Check out? they were nearly ready to pay Did he think she said something about him? it related to both of them Did he think she was teasing him? No, he took it at face value Did she say something about the cart? no Was he pushing the cart? Not at that point; they were just about to pay Was she? Was the cart heavy? fairly Light? Hard to steer? Defective or damaged? no did she say something negative? Neutral? this - however, he got annoyed Positive? Are any other humans relevant? Any animals? no

[GalFisk]

Did she say something about packing? Paying? Somethign else they were doing? Or about to do? Or had just done? Relevant how they got to and from the store? If so, did thery walk? Bicycle? Drive? Take public transport?

[Sarisberie2]

Did she say something about packing? yes Paying? Somethign else they were doing? Or about to do? Or had just done? Relevant how they got to and from the store? yes If so, did thery walk? Bicycle? Drive? this Take public transport?

[GalFisk]

Somethign about the packing that was going to be done? Had been done before? Who was going to do it? How well or poorly it was done? Or expected to be done? Bags relevant? Relevant how much stuff they had bought? Brittle products relevant? Such as eggs? Crackers?

[Sarisberie2]

Somethign about the packing that was going to be done? Had been done before? Who was going to do it? Assume both of them packed How well or poorly it was done? Or expected to be done? Bags relevant? yes Relevant how much stuff they had bought? somewhat, assume around 6 bags worth Brittle products relevant? Such as eggs? Crackers? everything else irrel

[GalFisk]

Carrying the bags relevant? Were the bads reusable? Plastic? Paper? Loading the car relevant? Driving? Unloading the car? Returning the cart? Did they have a cart? Did they take the cart to their car?

[Sarisberie2]

Carrying the bags relevant? possibly Were the bads reusable? Plastic? Paper? Loading the car relevant? somewhat Driving? Unloading the car? yes Returning the cart? Did they have a cart? Did they take the cart to their car? irrel to the rest

[JenBurdoo1]

Anything to do with express lines?
Is this a normal checkout line, or is it arranged in some unusual way?

[Sarisberie2]

Anything to do with express lines? no
Is this a normal checkout line, yes, irrel or is it arranged in some unusual way? no

[GalFisk]

Does she say something about unloading the car? Does she say something negative about him? If not, does he think she does? Relevant how the car will be unloaded? By whom? How the bags will be carried from the car? How the content will be unpacked? Are they buying anything frozen? Refrigerated? Fragile? Relevant?

[Sarisberie2]

Does she say something about unloading the car? yes Does she say something negative about him? no If not, does he think she does? no Relevant how the car will be unloaded? yes By whom? not specifically How the bags will be carried from the car? yes How the content will be unpacked? no Are they buying anything frozen? Refrigerated? Fragile? Relevant? irrel

[JenBurdoo1]

Is a basket or cart relevant? Bags, hand-held items? Boxes? Is she making a pun on his name (say, she orders, "Carter! Bring the cart up!" or "Porter! Bring my bags!") Will more than one trip be taken between parking space and home?

[Sarisberie2]

Is a basket or cart relevant? Bags, yes hand-held items? Boxes? Is she making a pun on his name (say, she orders, "Carter! Bring the cart up!" or "Porter! Bring my bags!") Will more than one trip be taken between parking space and home? yes

[JenBurdoo1]

Will an inordinate number of trips be taken? Is one of them missing an arm? Is the weather relevant? The parking situation outside their home?

[GalFisk]

Is she referencing any past events? Such as earlier shopping trips? Does he relevantly have a tendency to: not carry much at once? Trying to carry too much at once? Taking mutiple trips? Avoiding multiple trips?

[Sarisberie2]

Will an inordinate number of trips be taken? Is one of them missing an arm? Is the weather relevant? The parking situation outside their home? No/NR to all

[Sarisberie2]

Is she referencing any past events? Such as earlier shopping trips? yes, as per puzz S/M Does he relevantly have a tendency to: not carry much at once? Trying to carry too much at once? Taking mutiple trips? Avoiding multiple trips? no

[JenBurdoo1]

Are they trying to take as few trips as possible? Use as few bags? Double-bagging relevant?

[Sundowner64]

Is the car really full? do they have a small car?
Will he unload the car? she? both together? will they both drive home together? Will they unload all the stuff in one place? or drop things at multiple places (like taking home some things for their neighbors)? Order in which things are loaded into the car relevant?
Were all three shopping trips to the same store? did they buy each time more or less the same stuff?
Is their home at an unusual place? (like: a ship? a lighthouse? a mountain hut?) Are there conditions that make unloading difficult?
Is it a long trip from the store home?
Is the weather relevant? Is it raining?
Does she say anything to the effect that he should handle things with care when unloading?
Is her remark refering to different roles or skills of men and women?

[Sarisberie2]

Are they trying to take as few trips as possible? Use as few bags? Double-bagging relevant? No

Is the car really full? do they have a small car?
Will he unload the car? she? both together? will they both drive home together? yes Will they unload all the stuff in one place? No, explore or drop things at multiple places (like taking home some things for their neighbors)? Order in which things are loaded into the car relevant?
Were all three shopping trips to the same store? yes, irr did they buy each time more or less the same stuff?
Is their home at an unusual place? (like: a ship? a lighthouse? a mountain hut?) Are there conditions that make unloading difficult? not difficult but there is something connected to this
Is it a long trip from the store home?
Is the weather relevant? Is it raining?
Does she say anything to the effect that he should handle things with care when unloading? not this, but OTRT
Is her remark refering to different roles or skills of men and women? no
Everything else no or irr

[GalFisk]

When unloading, is there something affecting the car? Such as being parked in an awkward place? Tight place? On an incline? Something affacting the home? Such as relevant stairs? Locks? Doors? Having to walk a long way? Are there conditions making unloading strenuous? Time-consuming? Tedious? Requiring a certain number of people?

[Sarisberie2]

When unloading, is there something affecting the car? Such as being parked in an awkward place? Tight place? On an incline? Something affacting the home? Such as relevant stairs? Locks? Doors? Having to walk a long way? Are there conditions making unloading strenuous? Time-consuming? Tedious? Requiring a certain number of people?
No to all, BUWT

[Sundowner64]

Are they driving straight home from the store? stopping by somewhere before getting home? driving somewhere else after having been at home?
Is all the shopping for themselves?
Are they returning part of the bought items to the store?

[GalFisk]

Relevant where the bags are put in the car? If so, trunk? Back seat? Back seat floor? Front seat? Front seat floor? Someoen's lap? Do they relevantly block anything?

[Sarisberie2]

Are they driving straight home from the store? stopping by somewhere before getting home? assume he drives her to her home first, then he drives himself to his home. driving somewhere else after having been at home? other than the 2 homes, no
Is all the shopping for themselves? yes
Are they returning part of the bought items to the store? no

[Sarisberie2]

Relevant where the bags are put in the car? somewhat If so, trunk? assume yes Back seat? Back seat floor? Front seat? Front seat floor? Someoen's lap? Do they relevantly block anything? no

[GalFisk]

Relevant where the car is parked? Or how it is parked? Or who does the parking? If so, at the store? At home? Somewhere else?

[Sarisberie2]

Relevant where the car is parked? outside her house, then outside his yes Or how it is parked? Or who does the parking? he does, it's his car, irr If so, at the store? At home? Somewhere else?

[JenBurdoo1]

Are the bags packed into the car in such a way that hers are at the back (because she made her purchases first?) and his in front of them, yet they will be removed in reverse order because they arrive at her home first?

[Sundowner64]

Did they put everything into the same shopping cart? everything mixed upon? so that he had to separate the items into his and hers before he could stow them away? Is the thing she said that they better should have taken two separate carts?

[Sarisberie2]

Are the bags packed into the car in such a way that hers are at the back yes (because she made her purchases first?) irr and his in front of them, yes yet they will be removed in reverse order because they arrive at her home first? to clarify, his bags were put into the car first, through the back hatch/boot of the car, and hers were put in after his.

[Sarisberie2]

Did they put everything into the same shopping cart? yes everything mixed upon? yes so that he had to separate the items into his and hers before he could stow them away? as they packed the bags they put her things into her bags and his things into his bags. Is the thing she said that they better should have taken two separate carts? no

[JenBurdoo1]

Are the bags packed into the car in such a way that hers are at the back yes (because she made her purchases first?) irr and his in front of them, yes yet they will be removed in reverse order because they arrive at her home first? to clarify, his bags were put into the car first, through the back hatch/boot of the car, and hers were put in after his.

OK, I think I used unclear directions then - I meant "at the back" from the perspective of a person retrieving them from the back of the car. So to clarify, I visualize the placement as:

- seat back
- his bags
- her bags
- hatchback door

Is this correct?

And if so, do they arrive at his home first, thus causing difficulty as his bags must be removed first, but hers are in the way because they were placed in the boot second? Are the bags easy to mix up?

[Sarisberie2]

Are the bags packed into the car in such a way that hers are at the back yes (because she made her purchases first?) irr and his in front of them, yes yet they will be removed in reverse order because they arrive at her home first? to clarify, his bags were put into the car first, through the back hatch/boot of the car, and hers were put in after his.

OK, I think I used unclear directions then - I meant "at the back" from the perspective of a person retrieving them from the back of the car. So to clarify, I visualize the placement as:

- seat back
- his bags
- her bags
- hatchback door

Is this correct? All irrel and BUWT. Suffice to say that on any given trip, it wasn't difficult to work out.

And if so, do they arrive at his home first, It varied, irrel thus causing difficulty as his bags must be removed first, but hers are in the way because they were placed in the boot second? irrel Are the bags easy to mix up? Actually, NO. Good Q.

[JenBurdoo1]

So were the bags from different shops? Did they have different logos? Were hers paper and his plastic, or vice versa? canvas? Other? Is it easy for things to spill or fall from the bags?

[Sundowner64]

Relevant who carries the bags from the shop to the car? He? She? Both?
Relevant who puts the bags into the car?
Relevant who unloads the bags?
Does she say he should not unload the wrong bags?
Was her statement ironical? Did she refer to an incident in the past?

[JenBurdoo1]

Relevant who packs the bags? Puts the purchases away once home?

[Sarisberie2]

So were the bags from different shops? Did they have different logos? Were hers paper and his plastic, or vice versa? canvas? Other? Is it easy for things to spill or fall from the bags? all no and irrel

Relevant who carries the bags from the shop to the car? Yes He? She? Both? yes
Relevant who puts the bags into the car? yope
Relevant who unloads the bags? yope
Does she say he should not unload the wrong bags? yes
Was her statement ironical? Did she refer to an incident in the past? no

Relevant who packs the bags? they each pack their own Puts the purchases away once home? He puts his away at his home and she at hers, irrel

[GalFisk]

Relevant how she says it? Does she say it in an insulting manner? "Keep your damn hands off my bags"? In a manner insinuating that he'll get it wrong? That he previously got it wrong?

[Sarisberie2]

Relevant how she says it? yes Does she say it in an insulting manner? no "Keep your damn hands off my bags"? no In a manner insinuating that he'll get it wrong? this is nearest That he previously got it wrong? he didn't, but explore

[Biograd1]

So all three times she said the same comment (or perhaps a slightly paraphrased comment)? telling him to be sure to take the correct one of the bags, and implying he might choose the wrong one by mistake?

Was the difference in his reaction merely due to the repetition (like, at first he was upset at the implication that he might be stupid, but then after it was said enough times, it became an inside joke, hence funny)? or was there a relevant change in the contents of the bags that made the comment have different implications? like for instance, in some cases the bags had something they really wanted (such as ice cream, pizza, etc.), where taking the wrong bag would deprive someone of something, whereas other times the bags had something necessary but hardly fun (such as a toilet plunger/cleaner, pills for a rather embarrassing medical problem, etc.), where being stuck with the wrong bag would feel uncomfortable?

[GalFisk]

Did she insinuate that he would want to take the wrong bag? That her bag was somehow better than his? Or that taking his own bag reflected poorly on him somehow?

[Sarisberie2]

Sorry - this puzzle over-ran a bit and then I was out of action. Solution below.

So all three times she said the same comment (or perhaps a slightly paraphrased comment)? telling him to be sure to take the correct one of the bags, and implying he might choose the wrong one by mistake? YES

Was the difference in his reaction merely due to the repetition (like, at first he was upset at the implication that he might be stupid, but then after it was said enough times, it became an inside joke, hence funny)? Exactly or was there a relevant change in the contents of the bags that made the comment have different implications? like for instance, in some cases the bags had something they really wanted (such as ice cream, pizza, etc.), where taking the wrong bag would deprive someone of something, whereas other times the bags had something necessary but hardly fun (such as a toilet plunger/cleaner, pills for a rather embarrassing medical problem, etc.), where being stuck with the wrong bag would feel uncomfortable? no

Did she insinuate that he would want to take the wrong bag? That her bag was somehow better than his? Or that taking his own bag reflected poorly on him somehow?No to all

SPOILER*************************************************************

The thing she said to him as they were going through the checkout was, "We must be careful not to get the bags mixed up". This really annoyed him, because it was such an obvious thing to say* - they lived in different houses but did their shopping together. Although it annoyed him on future visits, he eventually accepted it in good grace and it became a contest as to who could say it first. To be fair, she did it deliberately because he was so easy to wind up.

* or, "Master of the bleeding obvious", per John Cleese.